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It's been almost a year now since I uncovered a secret that forever changed my life. It is by God's grace that I am still of a sound mind. It was a Saturday morning, I was cleaning my daughter's room as I usually do. She was not home. As I worked throught the room I uncovered folded notes stuffed inside and in between books and notebooks. She has been acting so unlike herself for months and I felt I needed to read these notes if I were to ever understand why the odd change in her. The notes were from another girl. The writings were sexual in nature and every word that I read broke my heart. I felt like I was in the middle of some horrible nightmare, a bad joke. My kids spent their lives going to church and youth group. My kids were brought up with a Christian faith and love for Christ. How could this be happening? When she came home we questioned her and she finally admitted to her desire and attraction for other girls. She fell apart, she cried, she looked lost but she was not willing to let go of this lifestyle. We immediately went to our Pastor in desparation. He got us connected with a Christian counselor. We took our daughter for more than 6 months and still there was no change, no hope that she was finally seeing her sin for what is. She was not willing to let it go. We made a hard decision to discontinue the counseling as we came to realize that she was manipulating those sessions all too well, taking the focus off her sin and on to others. The public school system has not helped at all. They are busy providing an environment of acceptance for all lifestyles with their GSA (Gay/Straight Alliance) clubs. Teachers are afraid to stand up for their faith, afraid to rock the boat. Satan is after this generation like no other. He sees the endless opportunities and weeknesses of this generation. Now more than ever we must find ways to reconnect our youth with Christ. We need the parents to rise up for Christ and for their teens. I am still a Lost Mom...I don't have any magic answers, all I have is Christ. I pray for her, for her salvation, for God to reach into her life and separate her from this lifestyle. I just want her back. I miss her terribly, she is not the same kid anymore. So, to anyone else out there who is going through something similar...just know you aren't alone. Pray a lot. Pray for your kid, pray for their friends, pray for God's intervention. It may take months or years...no one knows. Continue to love your teen even though they are seemingly running from you and all that is good. Someday they will come home and you will want to be there. God Bless.
Lostmom ~
As I read your post, I couldn't help but think about a conversation between a couple of other moms that took place a few months ago here in our forums community. Although their children are no longer in their teen years, I'm pretty sure these moms would relate to much of what you're going through with your daughter. Like you, they are praying for their girls and trusting God to bring about a change in their lives.
Even though you're heart is surely aching, you have chosen to be a voice of encouragement to other moms on the forums - and I thank you for that! Just know that if you ever need a little encouragement yourself, we're here for you! And, if you need to talk to one of our counselors, they are available to offer additonal support and advice.
Before I sign off, I want you to know that I'm praying with you - and with other moms like you - who want God's best for their kids. I hope you'll remain steadfast in hope, and that you will continue to boldly approach the throne of grace with your concerns. He cares, and desires to see you through whatever challenges you may face in the days ahead.
Hugs and Prayers,
DeniseFOTF
FOTF Moderator
Even though I have never had to deal with this particular issue, I want to give you some words of encouragement and scipture that I think apply to this situation as well as others where our kids go down the wrong path.
The first thing that we need to understand is that God has given everyone (including our kids) a free will, which means that there is a point in time where we as parents have to let go and let God deal with them. Years ago, when I found out that my oldest son was have a drug problem I had to do this because I was not is a situation where I could impact his behavior.
The scripture God lead me to was found in Isaiah 54:13 (NIV) #13 All your sons will be taught by the LORD, and great will be your children’s peace. Later on in this chapter it says in verse 17 that This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.
This tells me that all I have to do is to keep myself on the right path (this is the heritage...) and God "will continue to teach" or discipline my kids in such a way as to encourage them to turn from their wicked ways. This may mean that they have to go through some difficult trials, but God's desire is for all to be saved and he will do what he can to encourage that.
Our biggest challenge is to continue to pray for our kids, and at the same time - not bail them out so to speak when they get into trouble - so they can learn from their mistakes.
Still praying for God's intervention and guidance. For months I had considered that there might be a psychiatric component to all of this. I watched her behaviors closely. I even went to great lengths to schedule her for a behavioral consult just to make sure that I was no overlooking a medical issue. The moment I made this appointment, my heart sunk. It didn't feel right. Taking her to a secular psychiatrist would only add another layer of confusion to this mess...more reasons for her to excuse her choices. This was not an easy decision...every parent wants the best for their kids and that includes medical care. But, I had to sit back and really look at what she was doing. Was her extreme rebellious behavior causing issues outside the home? Was she well behaved in other social situations, family gatherings, school, her job? YES! In all of those situations, she was actually behaving just like I once knew her to be. It was her time at home that became volatile, when she was under house rules, being told to do her chores, to be a contributing member of the family. I needed another opinion...maybe a few. It was unanimous...the feeling was that this was not a medical or psychiatric issue...this was a major rebellion issue. Rebellion that has fed into a life choice grounded in sin. Granted, I am sure there are moments in her life that could have gone better, we all can say that. But with those moments, she decided it was better to magnify all that was wrong instead of what is or could be right. She forgot about her Savior. She forgot where her saving grace was. So, I canceled the appointment and I am now searching for a Christian Psychiatrist, locally. I also have her spending time with our Pastor. He is a great man who cares endlessly about his church family. I think we are moving in the right direction. I love my kids...I can't imagine ever giving up on them. I know they will make choices that I won't always like...but right now, I still have a job to do. God gave me two miracles of life, how could I ever give up on that?
P.S. Still praying for all of you out there who are experiencing the same challenges. My hope is that one by one, we will be able to add one last post of answered prayer some day. What an awesome thing it would be to see such great intervention and healing for us all. Blessings!
Just wanted to reach out to this forum to see if any of the parents who are dealing with the same issues that I am are experiencing any extreme behavioral changes in their kid? In our house we are dealing with a lot of secrecy, lies, explosive anger at times. She is disrespectful and mean. She cuts with words easily. She used to be so fun loving, so humorous, lots of fun to be around. When all of this came out, a whole other person seemed to have replaced the one I knew.
When we discovered this nightmare, we had taken her cell phone away. We knew it was being used primarily to call this other girl. When she asks to go out and do things with friends, we have to ask a lot of questions. Soon she will get her license and buy a car...I will lose the ability to monitor her whereabouts. She will turn 18 this year and again I will lose even more ability to enforce rules and boundaries. I am already prepared to hear, "I'm 18 now, you can't control me." She threatens to pierce parts of her body, to get a tattoo. My head is spinning.
Most important is the loss of connection and relationship to her father. She used to be her father's shadow...wherever he was, she wanted to be. If he went away overnight, she would be a mess and I would have to call him and put her on the phone so she would feel better. A huge piece of him is missing because of this...I know he is angry, but I also know he misses her terribly. I feel like we only have a few months left with her, then she'll turn 18. God is in control...He will intervene in His time. I just wish I knew when that was. I would mark it on the calendar.
My prayers are with you and I can't possibly know how you feel. I do know that I've been told recently that it's not my timing, it's God's timing. I am not in control and so I have given my son to God, completely! It was a conscious verbal declaration that I said " He belongs to you Lord, not me. It is your timing and not mine". God will not forsake me because I have faith that he is the father and will watch over his children. Yes, I pray day and night for him, but I have given it up for him to take care of. That is my advice to you. Of course he is my son here on this earth, and I am loving and caring for him daily. He knows where we stand on our issues and will not sway. We have decided to not make it a battle ground in our home. Thankfully he is respectful to that. Please understand we are not dealing with the same issue you are. He will be turning 19 this summer and I know he's confused and going through a phase, hopefully a very short phase. I absolutely agree with you that Satan is alive and well. He's working as hard as ever on this generation of kids. It's a fight I'm worth fighting for.
Thank you RevDan for your scripture. I enjoyed it.
God Bless you and keep up the prayers.
Kam
Those words echo through my mind over and over, "I'm not in control". I'm not in control of any of this, her behavior, her poor decisions, her anger. This is like a really sad movie of your own life playing out in front you, you don't have the remote, you can't turn it off, you can't switch to something funny on another channel, you are stuck. You can step outside of yourself for brief periods of time, go to work, run to the store, concentrate on helping others. But that's it. I have to remind myself over and over that this is not my sin, this is out of my control, she is God's child and He will take care of this in His time. Those words require deep committed levels of faith...and I think this is where God is working on me.
Last night was far from fun. She had asked to go out with a friend, an older friend who has a small child and still lives at home with her parents. She told me they were going to grab something to eat and maybe a movie. I told her the curfew was 11pm. I had no way of knowing if any of this story was even true. She finds ways to manipulate and fly under the wire. Later that evening, she calls and asks to stay overnight. She gave me an incredibly hard time over the phone. I kept repeating the curfew. She wouldn't listen. I was so frustrated that I tried some reverse psychology on her, but it back fired on me. I told her that I had already spoken, the time had been agreed upon in advance and it was now up to her to do the right thing. I had hoped a little guilt might work. Nope. She never came home. Stayed out all night and then called us at 7am to come pick her up! My husband was furious. I knew he was ready to explode. So, we truly have no idea where she was or what she was doing. At this point it doesn't matter. She won't be going out again any time soon.
I had nothing more to say to her when she came home. I was dissappointed in her. I am learning to side-line my thoughts and words until I can decompress. It's better for me to not react when I am so incredibly angry. Every day that goes by I lose another piece of who she really is. Every day I feel the loss of what this battle has brought into our family. It's like watching someone who's addicted to drugs...this is just as much of an addiction as any substance abuse. No one ever anticipates this. No one is ever prepared. I miss her.
Dear Lostmom,
Boy, I know exactly where you are all too well. The great thing is, this too shall pass. You have to give your daughter over to God every single day and ask God to keep her in his hands. The more you hang on the harder it will be for your relationship with her. We hang on out of fear and so I have two sayings I repeat to myself. Faith over Fear, and Ch**(my son's name) belongs to God. Your daughter is almost an adult and can actually move away at any time after 18. For us our son's behaviour peaked at 17. At this stage they are very lost and are searching for who they are. Sin or no sin, they are trying to fit in and they rebel if they are feeling controlled. I wanted my son to know how much I loved him and therefore I would let him go. We ask him to call if he will be later than 3am. Now that it's not an issue, he's home usually by 11, sometime 12 midnight. Truthfully, someone pointed out to me about my sin at his age. He is doing far better than I was. We completely embrace him and his differences and with all my heart, I have faith that God will bring him full circle to the man I know he's supposed to be. If you haven't heard Brandon Heath's song Wait and See, listen to it and apply it to your daughter. The first time I heard it, it brought tears to my eyes. God is not finished with any of us. We are all work in progress. Your daughter needs your unconditional love and gentle guidance. Through many prayers and passing time you will see her change, you just need to give her to God.
A great book I did just buy is Henry Clouds Boundaries for your adult children. Possibly pick that up and find out what boundaries will work for your home. We have found our boundaries and it's working.
One last note....My family has just buried our 20 year old nephew. When I came home from the service I just wanted to hold my two sons. I wanted them to know how much I cherish them. God will get you through this time. He won't turn his back on you. Embrace all the great things about her, while letting go of her and I promise she will always remember that.
~Faith over Fear~
~She belongs to God~
I will keep you in my prayers.
Kam
I would like the emphasize something kkkkaaaammmm said. Making sure your kids know you love them no matter what is the most powerful tool you have in this situation.
Boundaries, holding your words in check when angry and combating society's delusions are important but they are only holding actions. They can change nothing in your child's life.
A parent's love is so tremendously important, especially when dealing with this issue.
My own son never faced this particular issue but, like many teens, he rebelled. At 16 he was out of control, drinking, smoking and skipping school. It was at the point we were arguing every day. Then, suddenly, in the middle of an argument, I realized that it had been a long time since I had really told him I loved him without conditions. I realized the only time I was telling my son I loved him was in the middle of a fight, saying things like, "I love you but you are driving me crazy." So I stopped and told my son, "look, I am unhappy with your behavior because you are hurting yourself. But I want you to know that no matter what you do I love you very much and am more proud of you than anything else in my life. So, from now on, there will be a new rule in this house. No matter what we have said or done during the day, every night before you go to be I will hug you and I will tell you I love you." It was sometimes a hard rule to keep. I often had to bite my tongue to keep from saying "I love you, but....." but we kept that rule for the next 5 years.
He is now 27 and I could not ask for a better son. He attends church regularly, acts like a father to his girlfriend's nephews and nieces, and is one of the most hardworking, honest, cheerful people I know. A few weeks ago I was eating dinner with him and his girlfriend and when he left the room for a moment his girlfriend said to me, "I have never seen anyone have as much respect for their father as he has for you."
Love is not always easy to show but it is a hugely powerful thing and it is what kids struggling with same sex attraction need more than anything else in the world.
I also want to say there is hope out there for parents who fear for their children.
It is true there is a huge growth of acceptance of the gay lifestyle in the world today and I know parents are afraid of the temptation their kids will face. But there is also a great groundswell occurring of those who are same sex attracted but dedicated to following God's Word. Men and women from their mid teens to retired are coming together in support groups, on college campuses and in online-associations to support one another and encourage each other in their battle against temptation like never before. They face a lot of hardships but are doing it with great courage and with the love of God. In 20 some years of ministry I have never met another group of people with such an understanding of the grace of God or a such a love for His Word.
It is true your children will meet many people who will try to entice them into a sinful life style. But God is providing the means right now so that they will also meet many who are tempted but who are dedicated to standing on the Word of God and finding victory over that temptation. These people are becoming very open in their witness, far more open than I could have predicted 15 years ago. They are fighting on the front lines of this issue, often bearing the brunt of society's scorn, so that your kids will have the option of knowing that instead of following temptation, they can live in the love of God and for God's glory. Believe me, you are not sending your kids into the world alone. God is making sure there are people out there who will help, guide, encourage and support them in their walk with Him.
So do be sure to love unconditionally and to express that love. And don't be afraid to put your kids in God's hands. His hands really, truly are working powerfully to make sure your kids have the resources they will need to know His mercy and live in Him.
God is love and His love is powerful.
Dear Andrew - That was a wonderfully thought out response and I want you to know that it was very meaningful to me. I read it out loud to my husband and even he said that you are great writer. I think he too was struck by your take on the expression of unconditional love. I, like so many other parents are crawling on our bellies in the middle of a war zone just waiting for the next alarming shot to be fired. We are all emotionally drained, feeling overwhelmed, and burdened with hurt and loss. We are truly in the heat of the moment and it is often very hard to step outside of ourselves to look inward and get a different perspective of our situation. That is why this parenting community is so important...other parents coming together to share their stories and their pain...all with different levels of experience. We can all learn so much from each other. God is so good! I know HE is in control, it will be HIS timing not mine. Yet I am only human and I will continue to falter and make mistakes. I am a work in progress!
Some good news to share...she has been spending some time with our Pastor and I do believe this has been spritually enlightening for her. He continues to meet with her weekly, sharing the word of God with her, asking her very thoughtful questions, and praying with her. We are so thankful for his help.
Everyone - Interestingly enough...the more time she spends with our Pastor, the calmer and easier she is to deal with. Instead of there being a few hours or at most a day of peace, now there is a day or even a few in a row that are good. This is a HUGE thing. My home has been a war-zone for over a year and now to have these moments of peace and dare I say happiness...it's like the pain is gone, what a relief. I am grateful for every moment I get. I am also grateful for all the entries that everyone is adding to the various posts.
The most exciting part of it all is to see her getting along with her Dad, even for brief periods of time. She is a great kid with a ton of talent and gifts. She is cared for and loved by many and those who know her have always been fond of her.
Thank you for the prayers and I continue to pray for all of you. This is the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with but somewhere down the line God will make His move and I want to be there, waiting, with my arms opened wide just for her.
Here we are, more than a year since we discovered the secret that forever changed the dynamics of our family. We are so far from what we used to be, what we knew as normal and comfortable and happy. If I had to compare a family photo from then and now, it would show visable strain and sadness. One of my greatest concerns is that this ordeal has taken over who we are. My husband and I try so hard to "compartmentalize" our lives. If we don't, there is no relief, no break in the madness. Initially, I spent a lot of time crying. Then I moved into anger. Then mourning as if she were no longer here. Now I am numb. Now, I just want to get through the day without any explosive arguing. Still her attitude toward her father is very disrespectful and the bond they once shared is very broken. She bruises the relationship every chance she gets...always trying to make him look like a fool.
Our pastor would like to meet with her one last time. She is unwilling to admit that her behavior comes with deep and serious spiritual consequences. She is unwilling to see any of it as something she should be repenting of. She justifies everything she says and does. She has an answer for everything...even saying that she believes God brought this other girl into her life. I was quick to rebutt that statement, but I could tell she wasn't buying. I'm not sure what this last meeting really means or what impact it will have on her. God has a plan and I wish I knew what it was.
I am sure every one of you in this community who have come to FOTF because of your child's sexual sin and brokenness can understand how you are getting lost in all of what is happening. You end up kicking on the auto-pilot so you can keep pushing on, yet deep down you are hurting and the sadness you feel is so deep that even the thought of bringing it to the surface scares you. You just want to scream out, "God, please let me wake up from this nightmare! Why Lord? Why is this happening?" Somewhere in all of this there is a lesson to be learned...a lesson for me, my husband, my son, and yes even for my daughter.