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I want to ask this even though it seems totally crazy to me and I don't know if I keep thinking about it because the Lord keeps putting it on my heart or if it is just *me*
I post a lot on these boards and I read many, many posts. It seems like most of the people that want to stand for their marriage actually want the marriage because they want the person back. I don't feel anything either way if my ex husband comes back or not, at least not for me. We have been divorced for almost 2 years now and at first I was standing for the marriage and I stopped a few months after the divorce was final. I just didn't want to anymore. But the feeling keeps coming back to me and I have no idea of how to know if this is the Lord or just me not wanting to get back to dating someone new.
Does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone been through this before? I am just completely not sure if I should start to pray for restoration or not. I kinda feel like I should be but not clear if that is the Lords will or not.
Thanks everyone.
Dear Ninkies,
I want to start by saying how much we appreciate having you on our forum. I know many have been blessed by your insights and support, and we've been honored to be with you on your own journey through this difficult season in your life.
You have asked a good and important question about how you should pray at this point ~ how to know whether the Lord wants you to pray for reconciliation or for His help in "moving on." I'm sure there are many others who have wrestled with the same uncertainty, and I hope you will receive some helpful perspectives here.
In the meantime, have you considered joining a Christian divorce recovery group, such as DivorceCare? A group setting might give you an opportunity to meet face-to-face with others who have similar needs and concerns. It sounds like you are truly seeking God's will in this, and I wonder if your pastor could counsel you, as well.
Bless you, dear friend. May the Lord's faithfulness be very real to you as you trust Him to guide you.
Ann
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Thank you so much for your reply Ann. I will look into DivorceCare. I have considered pastoral counseling but usually as a last resort.
I just wanted to share with everyone something that came up in our bible study on Sunday. Our pastor was talking about self-reliance and how God will use circumstances to get us to stop being self-reliant. We are studing Genesis, Jacob in particular and one thing the pastor said really hit home for me. He said that Jacob was comitted to the will of God, but not commited to the way of God, that is, he tried to do things in his flesh. I think that is a lot of what I have been doing at times. God wants our complete reliance on Him, and he may frustrate our plans or wrestle with our hearts if we are moving in the direction of the flesh. I believe that God is wrestling with my heart to get me to rest in Him and quit trying to "make a decision" about it, especially right now when I really don't need to! Its very freeing. ![]()
God bless everyone. I am praying for your marriages.
Ninkies,
You have been kind about replying to my posts before. You have seen my back and forth struggle with the same dilemma. I am attending the Divorce Care meetings in my area. I have shared with the pastor there my journey of things I feel like God is saying to me about "waiting" for my husband and for Him to move in my life.. He supported my belief to not pursue a divorce. While I am in this season, I need to continue to move on in the other aspects of my life. I need to continue to grow closer to my Savior and to find happiness no matter my circumstances. God has put many people in my life who have helped me on this journey. It is strange how a person can be both sad but joyful all at the same time. Believe me, when I look at the" seen" circumstances of my life it doesn't make any sense. When I think I need to "move on" and end the pain, something continues to bring me back to "waiting". I have been told my many that it is God's will to restore a broken marriage. My pastor has also told me to continue to listen for that small voice and "obey. That is where I am today. I will obey what I feel God wants for my marriage. He knows that I do not want my old self centered marriage. I want a different godly marriage . I want to be the godly wife I should have been before my life came crashing in. (I also want a husband that will love the Lord as I do, and will want to serve Him together) I too wonder if it is fear that keeps me here, but I feel peace here. I do not feel that peace when I consider divorcing. I know that divorce may still happen due to my husband's will. I will cross that bridge when and if I need to. My pastor told me when you need direction "Ask the Lord to give you a word" If you do not hear one, ask again. Continue to ask. I have never really "listened " for the Holy Spirit before this. It is amazing what I have heard. I know it is Him speaking to me because words I would not use come to me. I then will see these same words again in scriptures I read afterward. You have had a lot of great insight on my issues in the past. and have helped many here. I believe God speaks to you to help others.. I also believe God is giving you direction in your own life. Continue to seek His face. God Bless you, Chipfishing
Definitely keep praying and keep listening! God will give an answer. I held on to my marriage because I didn't feel the time was right to do anything else. My husband (yes, still my husband at this point), was cheating, lying, verbally and emotionally abusive to me and my 2 children for 24 years. I finally asked God that if I went ahead and pursued a divorce because I couldn't take it anymore and my 16 year old couldn't stand to see me unhappy, if He would close the door I would know it is not what I need to be doing. I don't understand it, but I felt at peace with my decision to go ahead with a divorce. I know I will definitely not reconcile with my husband due to the abuse and too many years of being lied to and cheated on. I held out hope and wanted my children to see a marriage that could overcome the odds, but I am still able to stand strong in Christ. My children are seeing that! I have to answer for the decision I have made, but at this point it is ok. I will continue to lean on those everlasting arms and listen.
If and when the time is right for you to make a decision, then you will know that you have made the right decision for you and your family. God will close doors and open them. Sometimes you have to put aside what others are telling you and trust what you know is the right thing to do.
I just found out that my ex husband remarried and moved to the Philippines. I think he actually married right away. My guess is that he is probably mooching off of this girl. I can't imagine that he is working over there.
The way that I found out is that I just randomly decided to search Classmates and saw his profile. Its filled with photos of the Philippines and photos that he (and I) took when we went to England together. There is even one that I took of him.
I have a lot of mixed emotions about it. I feel sorry for this girl. I'm sure that he will dump her as he did to his 5 previous wives. He pretty much abandoned his two youngest children (one is 18 and the other 15) that he swore up and down were *first* in his life. He has to be one of the most selfish, egocentric people ever.
I am glad to be rid of him, now more than ever. But sickened that he continues to carry on the way that he always has. I feel so bad for her. She definitley got the short end of the deal. Ugh. Okay vent over.
Ninkies~
I am sorry you have had to endure this pain in your life. A counselor here at Focus on the Family told me that "we all fall in to the mud in our lives sometime. But my husband (and yours), are choosing to live in it. If our husbands are going to continue to live there, God loves us enough to know we can not be dragged in to all the circumstances that come with living there. That is why I believe he will release us from them.
My pastor also told me that God wants Plan A (our marriage ) to be restored. But if our spouses free will and sin prevent this, we will get God's Plan B which will be far better the Plan A would have been. I hope this encourages you. I know I will never be the same because of this journey.You will have a much better life because of all He has perfected in you.. Your former husband will not have a life of peace and joy and probably will continue to run when things get tough. I pray he finds his Savior so he finds his way. Hell isn't a place I would ever want to see someone go. God will bless your life greatly for following and serving Him. I have prayed for you to have peace in this time and that God will show you what's next for you. God Bless, Chipfishing
chipfishing that was wonderfully encouraging. I keep wanting to tell myself that I am not hurt over this, but I really am. I'm angry at myself for marrying him in the first place.
I do believe that God has released me from this man because He has so much more for me.
What kinda grieves me is on his profile he wrote that he "found Jesus". He is probably so far from God its unreal. He has thumbed his nose at biblical truth by remarrying when he is not free to. His life is being consumed on his own selfish lusts.
I feel for his kids so much. I wonder what they even think of him. His daughter is my friend on myspace and she never talks. When I try to get her to open up, she says nothing.
It will be interesting to see how all of it plays out. I have a good idea of what will happen. This girl is SO young.... I think she is 18 or so. He has Hepatitis C. I wonder if he told her. I doubt it. I would almost go so far as to say that this guy is evil unleashed. I know our standing before God as unbelievers is to be on the side of Satan, but he is not only on his side, he is happily doing his work in devastating lives to get what he wants. It sickens me.
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Ninkies~
I always thought my husband was I Christian. My pastor, counselors, and others do not know his heart, although all of them told me. " Could a Christian do the things he is doing? " I suppose one could be lead so far away they they fall into such deception. I too do not know how you can believe a lie when you know the truth. Is it like the parable of seed sown on rock, in weed, or in the soil? What happens to a person who has heard The Word and then turns away. I ran to my Savior when my life came apart.. My husband ran to the arms of a married woman. Someone also said that even satan knows the Lord, but that does not mean they will follow Him. I worry about my husbands eternity. I pray for his soul and that he seeks his Saviors face. Without that my girls will have more sadness as their father continues to go down this self destructive path. Could I do the things he is doing? No. I feel so sad that my marriage is dying this slow death. I continue to put my hope in the Lord, not my husband. Your former husband , claims this title of" found Jesus", but what do his actions show? There is no "fruit" in his life. Pray this woman has protection during his time. Listen to Joyce Meyers broadcasts the past 2 days. It is about our transformation as Christians from being a "baby" to a "mature" Christian. I found it encouraging. God Bless you, Chipfishing
Hes not an *immature* Christian.
One thing that has stuck in my mind was when we were flying to England, we sat in the same row as another Christian. She started talking to my ex husband and we told her we were Christians. He mentioned that it was not his first marriage and she started questioning him. He told her that he had married a Mormon and she was asking him, that if he had been a Christian, then how could be marry a Mormon. He said that at 20 years as a Christian that he *didnt understand*. That was confirmation that I believed a line of baloney from him.
It was after he got his trip to england that he checked out. I paid for most of it, and he had never been out of the country prior. I was a fool. That qualifies as much not walking with the Lord as anything.
brightlight~
I am so sorry you are here in the same place as so many of us. Loving a spouse who has "moved on" and left you in the ditch is the hardest place I have been. It is grieving such a loss that I do not think anyone can understand unless they have been in our place. It helps me to know our Father in heaven understands as He has been rejected and abandoned many times by those He loves dearly. He gave His life for even those who hated Him, mocked Him, spit on Him, and laughed at Him. He does understand your pain and cries with you. All I can say is go back to Him. Your Savior does love you. He does not want this for you either. He has been trying to woo your husband back to Him and you. You can be certain of that. You know God hates divorce. He does want restoration but as you know He will not force Himself on anyone. Your husband, my husband, and Ninkies husband all are choosing to ignore His voice. The enemy has them captive and they need prayer.You need prayer as well . Things may not work out for our marriages like God and us wants them to, but I know if that is the case He will restore us to a better place and life because He loves us. Do not let the enemy deceive you and pull you from the only One who can give you the strength you need to get through this. I will be honest, I daily struggle with "moving on" and "waiting". I also have days when I feel overwhelmed with my circumstances. I have decided to trust Him to make the decision for me and not worry about choosing a which path. I will let Him direct my steps and my circumstances to show me they way. I prayed for you brightlight and Ninkies to give you peace during this time. Gods blessings to you, Chipfishing
brightlight He has spoken to me and quite clearly. I made a HUGE mistake in marrying my ex, and God knew what He was doing when He removed him from my life. I am grateful that he is gone.
Please dont think that God has betrayed you in any way. One thing that I have learned is that sometimes we can't see something but of course God can see things quite clearly. Mans intentions toward us are not always good, but we can trust God in his soverignty that He will allow nothing in our lives that we can't handle. He will bring you through.
I just wanted to update that I chatted with his daughter on MySpace and she seems to be fine with the fact that he packed up and left them. She defended him (I expected that and didnt challenge it, as much as I wanted to) and said that it was for the best. I wanted to ask her how could dumping them on their mom to move to the Phillipines to be with an 18 year old (hes 55) the best? no kid wants to see their parent in a negative light. I asked her if she had ever met the girl and why her dad couldnt just fly her out there and she didnt answer any of those questions. She said she was trying to go save money to go to see them. I suspect that he got in some sort of trouble here in the US. There cant be too many rational reasons for someone to pick up everthing ditch their kids (that he called grown on his classmates)
oh ugh I dont even want to think about him anymore