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Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM

confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong

I have been a Christian for 25 years, with my husband for 6 1/2 years, married for 5, mother of 2 kids and friend of another guy for 15 years.  This friend was a family friend, just a couple years older than me, that lives 1000 miles away and that I only saw once or twice a year when we went to visit my grandparents and he came to visit us a few times over the years.  He had no family--his parents disowned him and threw him out after he became a Christian (which was due to MY family's involvement).  My grandmother helped lead him to the Lord and he later lived with my grandparents for over a year while going to college.  I have long considered him the "cousin" I didn't have on that side of the family I have considered him one of my most important friends for almost that whole 15 years.

 

He also married and has 3 children now and leads his own life 1000 miles away.  We have stayed in touch over the years regularly but not consistently.  Some times we would talk several times a month, sometimes we would not talk for a few months.  We never dated, we never had any kind of relationship that crossed the line in word or deed and I never thought of him as anything more than a friend and adopted family member.

 

He and his wife have been having problems and she snooped into his work phone and saw that we had been communicating and accused him of having an emotional affair with me.  I immediately told my husband so he was aware and he asked me to back off from communicating until things settled down, which I did.  My friend reached out several times for counsel and support and I kept my distance but then I got a phone call a few days ago from him while he was with his wife at marriage counseling and he told me that we could no longer communicate.

 

I don't have romantic feelings for my friend, I don't think I overstepped a boundary.  I honestly don't believe he has romantic feelings for me.  I think we are "family" and maybe we talked too much and his wife took it the wrong way but I am very hurt that I had to lose a friend over this.  I can confidently say that I don't think he wanted to have to cut communication with me, I think he did it to appease his wife and work on his marriage.

 

I understand this.  I understand fleeing the appearance of evil, due to her false accusation.  I understand working on a marriage and putting everything else at a lower priority.  I understand that maybe our friendship needs to take a serious back burner.  But do I really have to permanently lose a friend I have had literally half of my life?  My grandparents have since died and he is the only "family" I have left out there and it feels like I just lost my last family member to "death".

 

I don't want to be selfish and make his marriage suffer, or mine for that matter, over a friendship but I am deeply hurt that someone I have cared about for the better half of my life, who I have a lifetime of memories with, who has been my friend consistently and faithfully has been completely removed.

 

My husband doesn't appear to be upset or jealous about this and I have always been open about my friend to him and they are not really friends themselves but are friendly and amiable.  My husband doesn't seem to understand my hurt though and acts like it shouldn't matter.  My husband comes in as a the priority under God in my life and I love my husband and work hard on keeping the fire in our marriage burning bright but I still feel very hurt about losing my dear friend.  I guess I am just looking for some insight and some compassion and wisdom on all this.  I know God isn't trying to hurt me or punish me but should I have given this friendship up when I got married?  I don't know what to think.  I give God the glory for giving me such a good friend and for preserving my marriage when so many have so much trouble.

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1. Nov 3, 2009 4:38 PM in response to: wishiknew
Re: confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong

Thanks for coming on our forum, wishiknew. I can understand your frustration - - and grief over the loss of this friendship. It does seem awful abrupt and this guy clearly represents much more to you than just a childhood friend. That's probably why you're more deeply hurt than your husband. I don't know all the details, but did have some questions and comments based on what you shared.

 

It appears that there was never anything improper between the two of you and you seem to understand that friendships with the opposite sex (regardless of relationship) have to change once you're married. You are to be commended for keeping your husband completely informed and following his guidance.

 

However, maybe your friend wasn't as open with his wife about your periodic phone calls and that caused the distrust. Did you ever call just to talk with her? Does she know you well enough to know your intentions? Was the whole family included in letters or Christmas cards? Was he seeking your advice or counsel regarding his marriage?

 

You don't have to answer these questions here on the forum, but perhaps it would be best if you spoke with one of our counselors to sort out the various dynamics that might be coming into play. In the meantime, keep trusting God for His perfect will in both of your marriages. I'll be praying for you too!

 

 

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3. Nov 6, 2009 7:01 AM in response to: wishiknew
Re: confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong
The main "red flag" I see in what you wrote is that he had been contacting you frequently to talk about their marriage problems and seek your counsel.  It is a lot better to keep "counseling" conversations between same sex friends.  That is very likely what got the wife upset and insecure.  If the marriage was shaky and then her husband starting taking their personal problems to a female, especially one she doesn't know well, that probably set off more marital issues.  You said they called from the marriage counselor's office to cut off contact with you.  That would clearly indicate that the wife's upset over this was strong enough that the marriage counselor considered it a serious detriment to their marriage. The counselor obviously felt it  had to be delt with immediately and in the presence of the counselor or he/she would not have taken up session time for that phone call.  Have you considered the possibility that while your feelings/behavior were innocent, your male friend may have started to fall into an emotional affair pattern with you?  A disclosure, in the privacy of counseling, seems to my mind as the thing that would most likely make a marriage counselor take this step.  If you really care about your friend, the survival of his marriage is a whole lot more important to his long-term well-being than your need for closure.  I think a true friend would respect what the marriage counselor, who knows the facts from both husband and wife, has asked.
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5. Nov 12, 2009 7:03 AM in response to: wishiknew
Re: confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong

wishiknew,

 

I get it.  I 'lost' a close male friend when I married my husband.  It was a bit different in that he wasn't married, but I think he respected that things had changed - and I respect him for that.  I've also had someone I cared deeply for cheat on me with 'just a friend' from the past.  It wasn't fun.  

 

I think that the sense of loss you feel is completely normal.  Let it be what it is.  Be grateful for the friendship that you had while realizing that change and loss is a natural part of living.  (It doesn't necessarily mean that you did something wrong.)  And then let it go.  While I understand the impulse to contact them to obtain closure, you may be unintentionally doing more harm than good.  It could be construed as your trying to be the 'bigger (wo)man' and may exacerbate the issue.  Realize that you are actually being more of a friend by acting selflessly than by acting selfishly.  

 

Sometimes it's hard to come to terms with a situation from a logical standpoint rather than one of empathy.  It may help to imagine yourself in their shoes (your friend's wife and your husband, respectively).  If your husband were communicating with a close female friend about problems within your marriage, what impact would that have on your relationship with your husband?  And if your husband agreed to end the relationship but continued to mourn the loss of the relationship, how would you feel?    

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7. Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM in response to: wishiknew
Re: confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong

I think you're on the right track, wishiknew, and I, too, have found solace in being able to express my feelings in this arena.  I am glad to hear that your relationship with your husband is strong.  My own marriage took a significant hit over the past two years due (in part) to my husband's relationship with a young (unmarried) female co-worker.  What began as an ego-boosting role as a mentor slowly but surely became a substitute for intimacy in our relationship.  Trust issues (stemming from the infidelity that I mentioned in the previous post) that I thought had been resolved for some time came back with a vengeance as he began to protect that relationship and put it before our marriage by not telling me about their interactions.  I don't know that I will ever know the extent of what did or did not happen, but the healing process has been a looooong, slooooow, haunting process.  I remember my mom telling me that the dynamics between men and women change with marriage.  I resented that, as I had always had close male friends and felt that I could trust myself to do what was right.  But from a practical standpoint there is some truth in it.  I pray that you'll find peace in this situation and ask that you consider praying that I find peace in my own situation.  

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9. Nov 12, 2009 1:28 PM in response to: wishiknew
Re: confused about a friendship with the opposite sex, gone wrong
Thanks, w.  It sounds like we have some experiences in common.  I've been the 'friend recruiter', too.  My husband says he hasn't had close friends in some time.  I'm not entirely sure why.  He's funny, smart, thoughtful, handsome, etc.  I've been trying to encourage 'man dates'.  But when he does gravitate towards people, he tends to gravitate towards women.  And they to him - women flirt with him constantly.  Which can be hard.  Luckily, I don't see most of it, but I do really struggle with jealousy sometimes.  Not most of the time, but definitely on occasion.  It is very hard when I know that he finds someone attractive and/or develops a crush on them.  (Even when logically I know that this is inevitable.)  It is also incredibly hard when it is someone he is around alot or someone he shares personal things with - especially when they reflect negatively on me or our relationship, or if it's something he hasn't shared with me.  I struggle because I feel that he has fallen into a habit of telling me what I want to hear - or not telling me if he knows it will bother me.  Kind of like he's holding me at a distance or trying to control how close I can get to him.  It's sounds strange to say, but he scares me sometimes (NOT because of any kind of abuse though).  It feels dangerous to be emotionally vulnerable around him.  I imagine that's due in large part to my own baggage.  I think you're absolutely right about needing to work on one's self rather than trying to oversee someone else's relationship with God.  I definitely understand how it is hard to feel like you're losing friends when you're already working to make intimacy in your primary relationship stronger.  It seems so strange that something as seemingly wonderful as friendship can be so destructive.  I think that's why I sometimes struggle with the concept of marriage.  I guess I used to think of marriage as a natural thing, but in some ways, it's the most un-natural thing in the world.  There's this incredible opportunity for selflessness and growth, but it comes at a cost that can feel high times.  It demands that we forego illusions of happily ever after.  That we come face-to-face with the best and worst in each other.  That we create social norms (like not pursuing close friendships with people of the opposite sex) to keep from falling into temptations.  Maybe it's just that the image of marriage (usually the wedding day or a much older married couple holding hands - but not much in between) is a fraction of the experience of marriage.  It seems strange to trade friendships for marriage, and yet sometimes, it seems necessary.  Argh.     

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