Keeping cellphones downstairs at night, so they're not up till all hours "communicating" instead of getting to sleep. And helping them to learn how to maintain boundries in their lives and even appreciate the space of not having to always be in touch with friends round the clock.
And what are you modeling with your own cell phone habits? Don't text your kids while they are in classes. The culture of being instantly in touch has created more "emergency" situtations because parents aren't planning ahead as much as they used to. Schools are getting inundated because parents didn't make arrangements for after school,etc. Don't make your inability to plan someone else's crisis to deal with.
You may already be aware, but many children are savvy enough to know to delete certain text messages and keep the innocuous ones so as to keep parents' awareness level at bay.
Here's another humdinger . . . free texting applications for ipods (and I'm guessing other devices too). 17-year old Child #1 has the 4th generation ipod and has free unlimited texting and facetime on there. 14-year old Child #2 has a 1st generation ipod with free unlimited texting. No face time because cameras were not on those. And while I'm thinking of those - there's also facebook's chat as well as, I'm sure, numerous other opportunities on other websites to visit. Makes it easier to stray away a bit more from mom and dad's watchful eyes.
So . . . how am I supposed to monitor THAT? At times I ask to see their "devices" (what I call them) and I check through some of the conversations. I haven't yet seen anything questionable and I'm just having to approach this all with faith. God loves my children, my children love God. They seek to follow Him each day as best they can. Because He loves them more than I ever could, I have to trust that he will convict them if they are going off-course and help them as they seek to get back onto the path of righteousness.
Though many thoughts constantly roll around in my head, I keep coming back to this . . . my children need technology in the culture they have been born into. They have to develop discernment and discipline in order to live with these tools and be able to still have righteous and pure lives. They won't be under my roof for forever and will need to be able to stand firm wherever they may be. So . . . that is where my efforts need to be concentrated. Standing firm on one's convictions has never been easy - I'd love to ask Noah about that! But way too many times, young people get a free pass from their parents and other adults in their lives excusing their immaturity and poor choices as "Kids will be kids", "That's teenagers for you." Yep - when the bar is placed that low - it sure will be.
I simply cannot devote half of my day everyday to look over their shoulders and follow-up after them on every forum, website, or texting conversation they have encountered. I do try to do some of it each day though - at least they know that I do care and will be watching them somehow, somewhere! But they also know that God sees them 24/7 - no hiding anything there!
Our children have phones, originally it started as an emergency only item. Now they have earned privileges to have the phones for other reasons. They are not allowed to use texting lingo because it will effect how they spell later in life. Jobs will not allow texting lingo for work, so they are not allowed to get in the habit of it. Mom and Dad reserve the right at any moment to put their hand out; the phone is immediately placed in our hand. They also know that we check/read messages. Phones are turned in at before getting ready for bed and anytime they are suppose to be doing work but are finding it hard to concentrate because of the phone. We can and will text friends on their phones so they have encouraged their friends to write out all words. In our house, texting words = spelling words (must write each word 50 times). We had them sign a contract that they agree to the rules in order to have the phone.
I agree Laurie,
Of course, we've had the discussions, made random checks, and took away priviliages for poor choies- just like any good parent would in any other teen vs culture situation.
When our oldest started on Facebook, I started too. Then we ichatted together [AIM] mostly in the same room! It was a great way for her to talk to mom w/o all the little siblings 'hearing it.' When our second daughter did a missions trip to Japan for 6 months, it was GREAT to be able to video skype with her. She played peek-a-boo with her youngest sibling. My 8 and 10 yo can skype w/ me while I'm out doing errands and they're at home. I'd hate to not be connected w/ my kids [they are on laptops, I'm on my phone] No way would I go 'back.' I too prefer to text than call people for routine things. I'm busy. I'd rather txt "buy milk" than interupt homeschooling, or even a rare talk w/ a friend just to impart a quick messge."meet at 8:30, got your homework done?" I text with my oldest kids a lot. We have contests to see who can txt faster without using chatspeak. I'm pretty fast. I actually begged my dh [that's chat speak for dear husband] to give our son/4th child a cell phone w/ txting at the age of 13 so I could call or txt him from anywhere in the house, rather than yelling. Especially since he mostly has his earbuds in, he wouldn't hear me anyway. I also txt my dh and several of my friends. I txt my nieces and nephews too. My father [their grandfather] loves to keep up with all of his teenaged grandchildring by txting with them. Txting is simply a tool- its the culture your children are in that determine their use of it. . .
blessings,
deborah
Go to your AT&T account, under "Smart limits" , under your wireless account..... and limit the # of texts the children can send per month, limit the times of day and days one can text , and then you can also block those people you do not want your child to send or receive texts from.
Monitor their usage and who they are texting. My daughter has lost two very good friends by texting too much and seeming overbearing.
I learned about these features from AT&T too late to save her friendships. But at least I know now.
They shoudl really limit the # of text per day vs per month.
I gave my youngest daughter a cell phone at age 14. She was under a limited use and only allowed to call those on her phone list and I put in her phone list. When she was able to show me she was responsible enough then the restrictions were removed. She only had phone use and this year when she moved out she finally got texting. She has learned to relish her privacy and does not publish every thought and movement she has on any internet form or texting.
I believe that children still need to earn the privilege to use a cell phone and internet.
Our daughters have cellphones but like other parents, we let them know that they are a privilege to managed responsibly. We have set clear boundaries around how, when, and where, etc. For example, phones are not allowed at the dinner table. They must be left on the counter or in the other room. (Parents lead by example.) Phones are left on the kitchen counter at 9:00 pm on school nights, 10:00 pm otherwise. As parents, we must be given the passwords to their phones and they are aware that we may conduct random checks on them at any given time. One thing we do not allow is any picture-mail or pictures by texting. They understand that this is for their protection – we may trust them but not everyone who may send them a text message may be as responsible. All it takes is one wayward foolish teen to text/sext an unwanted picture and the one receiving is still held accountable and you can’t erase a picture in your head. Therefore, no picture-mail. If there are any concerns with how they communicate with us or others (ie: bad attitudes with us, family, teachers, or inappropriate texts w/friends), phone service is easily managed at the account level – where we can turn texting on/off, data on/off, manage allowable numbers or suspend service all together. We do not get into “tug of wars” with “hand me your phone”, etc. We just go to the internet and manage the account. Because they value their communication privileges, it is a rare occasion that we have to enforce the consequences and when we do, they respond with very sincere and quick repentance.
Our kids are not old enough to have phones/texting devices yet. I know this discussion will be coming down the pike at some point in the not too distant future and I have learned a lot from this post and also these comments. Thanks!
J--
I feel bad for you that no one has responded to your post. It's heartbreaking to hear that you may be dealing with this with your spouse.
A person can label anything as bad if it is not used properly. Our family DOES text but uses it for effieciency in certain circumstances. If I don't need much information but a time or locatiuon why bother someone with a phone call? My oldest daughter (26) will look up the spelling of words before sending a text to someone. So it is not all bad. It's all how you use it.
Our phone co. has parental controls on texting, so we can turn it off during school, and after a certain time at night. It is an extra fee, but so worth it. They can still text certain #'s for emergency sake. This is also a good feature if discipline is in order, we can stop the texting ability for a certain time period ie. a week of no texting friends.
We were definately naive on phones with our first child and have learned from experience that it is a tool that takes some maturity and trust on the childs part to have this luxury.
This is something that I had to face. When my wife was in the hospital, I 'had custody of her phone,' and dealt with incoming calls and txts in her absence. It was during that time that it was revealed that there were inappropriate relations with her co-workers... To answer your question, "What if it's your spouse?" Well, God shows us mercy, grace, and forgiveness even before we ask for it. Christ died long before I was ready to repent. So, in all things respond in love, and live the testimony of Jesus. I know first hand that this is not easy to do. I also know that it is worth doing. There is a Biblical framework for divorce, but God likes it best when we can work stuff out... no matter how long it takes.
I hope that helps.
-"Hosea"
I love the idea of requiring full words be written in a text rather than short hand. My husband is a teacher and often finds students turning final papers with texting abriviations in them and steudents completly oblivious to their mistake. Ugghh! I personally already require request from my son to be in a full sentence to get an answer. ![]()
Do keep in mind that codes are still possible even when writen out like a cue word or name that indicates parents are there. I know I had verbal/phone cue words in highschool (b4 texting) with some of my closer friends for when my brother was being nosey.
I use to teach in a public high school. I learned that "420" for pot is from April 20, 4/20 which is suppose to be the birthday of Bob Marley, an advocate of marijuana.
Our kids don't get cell phones until they are 16 (and driving an old car which might break down at any moment, thus necessitating a cell phone to call mom and dad or a tow truck!). They pay for unlimited texting if they would like. We learned about that the hard way, as one of our four kids had 3000 messages his first month of texting. We read their texts and we also require all cell phones and lap tops be downstairs after 10 PM. I work with youth at our church and this is the way they communicate...via texting, Facebook and Twitter. So I'm there for all three of those...even though I'm 52 years old!
And this brings up another question...if they have data usage on their phones, how do you handle the porn issue? It's there...
So I know how some of these parents feel about texting, but coming from an 18 year old female; I didn't even know what those acronyms meant. I love technology, I am very techno-savvy, but it is pretty sad to see preteens (because lets face it; most kids my age...I guess young adults my age, really don't care about phone sex; lets just get out and do it). That is just the brutal honesty. If parents allow their children to have Facebook and myspace at an über Young age, then what is the difference in a cell phone? I got my first myspace when I was 9 my parents didn't know and I communicated with people a lot older than me, granted I used discretion(and had my oldest sister monitoring me); but that is because that is what I was raised with. There comes a time when parents just have to start trusting their kids, or when you release that tight leash you have on them; they are going to rebel hardcore. And a lot of you parents may say "Autumn, you're only 18 and have never had kids; what do you know?" I don't have kids, but I have a 25 year old alcoholic sister who was restrained so much when she was a teen that she rebelled with with with with with tattoo then second and third, then drinking, then drugs...I know parents don't think us teens know anything, but the times have changed sooo drastically that you all as parents don't realize that at a point, before 17( I started BEING suppressed by my parents at 17 rather than earlier; I was always an independent child), then they are going to rebel. Now, I can understand if you have a child that is addicted to porn or something; restricting their data usage is probably the best idea, but homeschool parents (I was home schooled until 7th grade, so I know the homeschool scene) need to allow their kids to have culture because the minute that they step onto a secular campus or even a Christian campus; meet some non-Christians and have their faith challenged, are offered drugs, alcohol, maybe even just hookah; they aren't going to say no. If all they have experienced of culture is under the ideals of their parents, then they are going to want to try new things. Yeah, monitor your teens, monitor your kids; but please, for the sake of God's kingdom, do not block them from culture because the minute that they hit the real world, they will crumble. Although they are teens, they have a lot more sense then you think.
In Christ,
Autumn-Renee
This is very helpful! Thank you. I am a youth pastor's wife, and a mom of teens. My kids don't have cell phones yet but this is good info. Thanks.
From the perspective of a 20 year old young woman, I really appreciate this blog. From my perspective, I believe my parents did a really great job of monitoring my cell phone use when I was a teenager, and even now. Until I was 16, I was expected to make all of my arrangements for rides, etc, before leaving my parents, or borrow my mother's cell phone. I was involved in sports and many other extracurricular activities, and although sometimes I got teased for not having a phone, it was never a problem to borrow a friend's if I needed to get ahold of my parents. When I was sixteen, I received my first cell phone for my birthday-no texting, no data. I had similar rules as those mentioned before; my parents could check my phone any time, it had to be on the kitchen counter to charge at bedtime, etc. One of the things that I'm proud to say is that after the first six months of use, my birthday gift, I've paid for my additional line on my parents' plan ever since. It has kept me very conscious of the fact that my phone is not a right, but a utility, much like electricity, water, or a "landline" phone bill. When I was 17, I received text messaging. After some bumps in the road, my parents set a monthly limit of messages, which was increased after proving that I wouldn't let it interfere with the rest of my life.
If I had to pick a few main things I've learned as a teenager grow up in this age of technology, I would first of all encourage parents to maintain communication with their children about anything. As teenagers/children, no matter what form of social media we use (Facebook, texting, phone calls), we can always hide things. Slang words and text speak aren't necessary; in fact, they vary so much between demographics that it's impossible to make a comprehensive list of possible inappropriate slang words (if you want a scare, check out urbandictionary.com). I don't feel like I need to hide anything from my parents; but I do appreciate my privacy at times. I'm sure when my parents were young, they enjoyed being able to talk to their friends without a parent listening in. Instead of being afraid of your kids hiding things from you, be the parent that they feel like they can tell everything to. It's totally worth it!
Second of all; don't even get into picture messaging/face time/skype unless there is no other option or your teenager has proven themselves to be mature and responsible in other areas of their phone. You can't control what other people send you, and being able to say "I don't have picture messaging" can be a lifesaver in pressured situations.
Third of all, the technology isn't bad! It's not going to go away, and being able to use it for good is a skill that needs to be learned. When I was unable to call, I've been able to text my parents that I need an "out" to get away from a bad situation. There are positive uses for texting!
Thanks for being caring parents that are looking out for their kids--we do appreciate it (eventually!!)
I say we stop worrying about monitoring our kids and start having CONVERSATIONS with our kids. TALK to them about texting. Bring another adult into their lives that they can talk to. And trust them. You shouldn't be policing your kids. You should be talking to them.
The same with the porn issue, Leslie. Have your husband talk with your kids. Or make sure your youth pastor is doing so. It needs to be discussed.
The problem with going after the action is it only prevents the person from that specific action... until they find another way around it. When you're having conversations, you're able to deal with heart issues. With inappropriate texting, taking away a phone isn't going to help with their attitude or teach them responsibility. With porn, preventing them from looking isn't going to teach them how to deal with the temptation of lust. SEE THE ISSUE OF THE HEART AND ADDRESS THAT.
"Apparently "420" is a universal symbol for the use and appreciation of marijuana."
Well from my teenage years 420 was actually the time or date to get high. So it gave me a petty excuse to toke up. Also April 20th at 4:20am/pm would also somehow be an extra special excuse. Sad i know. Notice the bumper stickers / shirts that read " Is it 420 yet?". Not really proud that I know this but those days are behind me.
If you dont allow your children to have cell phones and espicially to text you are seriously crippling their chances of succeeding in a extremely rapidly changing society. The world is changing faster than parents understand and not allowing youths to take part in that change inhibits their ability to deal with the further and faster change that is coming. We are rapidly approaching a time where the vast majority of commerce, news, entertainment, and ,although acedemia is always the slowest to learn, college will hevily if not entirely depend on the use of mobile devices and their associated systems. If you dont allow your children to keep up with the technology curve of mobile devices you are significantly hindering their chance of being competative in their future carreer espicially in buiness.
I'm absolutely not advocating laissez faire parenting on this issue. If you do not regulate or at least understand your childs usage of and involvment in all their social interaction: friends, school, sports, internet, phones then you are not parenting the way God intended.
But Please do not think you are proctecting them by not giving them the oppurtunity to participate in our ever growing and changing society.
As Christians we are like boats, and the world is like the water. A boat is useless if it is not in the water, but the boat has some serious problems when the water starts to get in it. Let your children be in the world but teach them to be not of this world!
While saying "We don't text. We prefer real conversations." may sound like championing the cause of personal interaction, at this point in our world it is paramount to saying, "I don't use that new fangeled computer thing, I prefer writing for REAL on my typewriter."
Maybe a bit off topic but I am seeing many of you discussing the different methods of interaction kids are using. Please keep in mind that most phones, games systems INCLUDING kid friendly Wii have internet browsers that have no filtration in them. No way to add free filters like Online Family from Norton (which works REALLY good and free but only covers PC's & MAC's.).
If you have kids and a home computer or computers PLEASE spend the 15mins-30mins and install the Online Family software. It is made by the makers of Norton Anti Virus but you don't have to have their AV software installed. Plus unlike the past Norton products are NOT the resource hogs people still say they are. It is actually good software now starting about 2008. So even if you don't have Norton AV as your protection you can still load their free family software that actually works 99% of the time in blocking porn and other junk. Make sure you either link the software to EVERY account or you password protect yours and then create a 2nd account for the kids that the software gets linked too. But the way I look at it in most cases if they shouldn't be looking at it then most likely I shouldn't be too so I have all accounts linked up with the software. Don't be scared all you parents , sure maybe your kids are better then you at computers but that is NOT an excuse to leave a wide open door to the net.
Spend the 15-30mins to not only install the software but give yourself time to look it over and get a understanding about it. No more worries about what the kids or spouse is really doing on the PC, the software reminds them it is running when you log in so it isn't supposed to spying on them.
Sick and twisted world we live in and really gets to me to think I will have to deal with this when my 2yr old grows up.
Another source of texting lingo is to look at urbandictionary.com. Kids are constantly updating it with language, slang terms and you can look up most things there. Also, it's important to fact check before we share info with other parents, we don't want to mislead each other, 420 is not Bob Marley's birthday. He was born on Feb 6th.
My sons are age 6 and 1, my 6 year old and I talk about texting and he asks me to text his aunts and uncles for him. We are not going to text friends at his age. Although, my husband informed me that a girl at my 6 year old's school, who he claimed was his girlfriend, gave him her number. Thankfully, her number was only 5 digits. I asked my husband to have a talk with him about girlfriends (no girlfriends at age 6) and phone numbers (no thank you). I want him to understand the rules early. I guess we'll start now.
I'm a Youth Minister so I get to have these conversations with other people's children too.
We recently took away the cell phone altogether for what was to be a month. The fall out was unbelievable with our teen taking off.
Techy toys are a touchy subject, but absolutely need to be monitored. Your advice above is spot on.
BTW, 420 is a reminder to smoke pot at 4:20 pm---the universal "time" to do so.
Leslie, and actually to everyone else on here too, you should check out NetNanny. It can monitor your computer (including Facebook chat) and they are soon coming out with mobile filtering. I don't say this to sound like you need to be a militant parent on top of everything your kids do. Not at all. Just simply that in this day and age where sin is so prevalent in so many forms widely accepted by youth today, our Christian teens & kids are going to face temptations everywhere, even if they are strong Christians. Giving them boundaries and teaching them how boundaries are a positive thing can go a long ways as well as teaching them how to combat the temptations that are out there are what kids need. Give them tools to know how to deal with incoming things. They may not be the ones who initiate an inappropriate conversation, but they need to know what to do if someone else sends them something along those lines.Say that even with your best attempts to help filter their world, you discover their initiation of/active involvement in whatever it might be (inappropriate conversations, texts, media watched/viewed)- Don't react. Converse,love and using it as a teachable moment "Honey, I noticed that there was a questionable web page(text,etc)on your phone(Facebook page, etc). Could you tell me what happened?"(or.. some other great response line I can't think of)That goes a lot farther than the easier reaction to, well, do that exactly-react.
Good parents are involved, know how to set smart boundaries, think through scenarios (everyone wants to believe the best about their kid, but it is a good idea to
This is in response to Tammy. You can put restrictions on the 4th generation ipod. Go into settings, General, Restrictions. You enter a 4 digit code and then set it up.My kids have ipods and I block the safari and app store etc. You can also block the facetime. They have to have the code to put it back on. Also there are parental controls you can download for the iPod touch just like you can do on the computer. Hope that helps.
My kids text because it's also cheaper on their phones than calling. I think the real issue here is that we need to be concerned most about the hearts of our children. Have we not trained them and built into their lives to the point that they have their own relationship with God now that would mandate not offending Him?! If my kids are texting around me, I ask, "Who are you texting?" and I've read some of their texts. I also have all (5) my kids' passwords on facebook and their emails....They voluntarily gave them to me because they have nothing to hide. I rarely check them, but they know that I could if there was a reason for caution. I want them to have privacy, along w/ accountability. Someone pointed out that God is watching them 24/7, so if kids know that and are striving to please him, then that's the issue and the solution here. Kids are smart....they're perfectly capable of hiding/deleting anything they don't want a "snoopy parent" to see, if that's how they view their parents and are not accountable to God first.
I also think there has been a failure in our culture to teach common courtesy with cell phones....No one should be texting in class or in the middle of a conversation or a church service! However, I see adults doing it too and I've had many adults stop in the middle of our conversation, even in the middle of a restaurant, to raise their voices as they talk on their cell phone to whoever interrupted our conversation...It's just plain rude, unless it is indeed an emergency!
Those are my thoughts...I would add that praying faithfully for our kids and staying open and supportive of them in person is probably also key to not alienating them in the first place, so they're closed off from us both in their spirits and with their electronic media modes.
Thank you for thoughtful, candid, relevant, empathic, provocative, poignant and perspicacious comments, They are undeniable evidence that your children are your heart. Hang in there. I know God loves your children; all our children; all His children, more than we can know. Your children rest between your demonstrated love and His omnipotent and omnipresent love. With your love demonstrating His love, and with His love empowering your love, your children smell the sweet aroma and feel the warm peace of love excelling. The power is undeniable, immeasurable, eternal and compelling. You are planting a heart in your children that will never be able to stray far without immediately feeling the loss and returning immediately. God bless.
Our child has the Textfree app through their iTouch, and the entire message comes to us through email-- that's how we have it set up. Sitting down with him with a printed sheet of messages was a great opportunity to talk about being in the world but not of it. He does have a cell phone now, and we do text; however, I do review his texts and we talk about how as Christians we can use technology to Christ's glory rather than shame. As Paul says, "all things are allowable, but not all things are profitable". Cell phones and texting features aren't the heart of the issue-- sin is. I agree that our responsibility is to emulate Christ in our households so they see it as a relationship rather than 'their parents' religion', and we have a responsibility to lead and to pray fervently for them.
Our stand is that we do take precautions, such as blocking internet access and download capabilities on the cell phone, and we have the parental controls on their iTouches; however, I don't want their first time wrestling with these issues to be when they leave home and don't have us to talk to. We discuss 'sexting', inappropriate messages, time and money management pertaining to the devices (such as, chores and schoolwork always come first!)-- even etiquette, such as putting the phone away when you're face to face with friends and focusing on them. It has opened up communication and helped our relationship, as my children see they can come to me with any question, and we can discuss it and reveal Biblical principles rather than my reacting in shock (which I have had to conceal a few times!).
I have 2 sons 18 and 15. I am the parent that never missed a basketball game, baseball game, soccer game nor never missed an opportunity to walk 18 holes of golf just because they wanted me to. When they want to talk, I listen....and I talk if that is what they want me to do.....even when things are on their mind at 2am. They know they can wake me in the middle of the night, call me at work or while I cook supper. My 18year old is a freshmen and living on campus at a university. He called me one night this week, at 12:30 in the middle of the night. He said "Mom are you awake?" just like he used to do when he would come to my bedside and wake me up. I said (just like I did before) "I was but I would rather talk to you." And so we did talk for the next hour. It was 1:30 in the morning and my heart was smiling because my son called from college just because he wanted to talk to me and get my advice. This is the "good stuff" in life for me. God entrusted me to raise these babies into Christian men who love God, who will love their wives and children as they have been loved. The only way I have known to do that was to parent them and revere them as belonging to God. May sound like our home was perfect and not discipline was needed or used, but to the contrary. There was alot of discipline in our home, administered with grace, love and firmness. Just as God disciplines us when we need it, I too disciplined these young men when they needed it. Just as God sometimes lets His children get themselves into trouble and out of trouble, I too allowed my sons to get into and out of trouble. Ah, the lessons we learn when someone else doesn't rush in and rescue us! That's how I learned and that's how I allowed my sons to learn, even though it was extremely difficult at times. Allowing my kids to experiences natural and logical consequences (as long as there was no physical safety risk) was always a much better teacher than I was and the lesson they would learn was always longer lasting too. A recent example was with my 15 year old. He was having trouble getting up in the morning and we would have to "fly" to school so he wouldnt be late which meant that I probably would be late for work because they both start at 8am. He was having trouble getting up because he was staying up too late - most likely texting with his friends. So instead of having him give me his phone each night, or telling him over and over to go to bed earlier, or telling him how to fix his morning problems, I told him this instead, with a firm but not a harsh or judgemental tone at all. "I will be leaving each morning at 7:15. I hope you will be up and ready for me to take you to school but if you aren't then I will have to leave you at home and you will be unable to get to school that day. And if you are unable to get to school, which means missing class, missing homework assignments, missing tests possibly....and remember if you miss school then everything at home is off limits too. no TV, no ipod, no video games, no anything until after you return to school." I hope you will figure out how to get up and out on time each morning." and then I always tell them I love him, give a hug and then its over and won't be discussed again. Since I told him that, he has done what he needed to do to be in my car at 7:15 each morning. and if he misses it a month from now, I will have to be true to my word and I will have to leave him....even though I will not want to. Life is hard and hard lessons have to be learned.
I am only sharing this to give another perspective on parenting and fighting battles. Each parent has to parent in ways that feel right to them. This is simply the way I have chosen to parent my sons and felt that I could share it. My sons respect me out of love and not fear or because they have to. They don't hide things from me because there is no reason to. They have Christ's conviction in their hearts just like we, their parents, do. They are God's children just like we are. Even when they do wrong, and they know consequences will have to be experienced, they still talk to me about it and when they want or need me to, I help them figure out ways to avoid the same struggle in the future. Remembering that I am not perfect and yet God still loves me and that Jesus died for me, always helps me deal with my children and their issues in a much better light.
And your kids need a cell phone at a young age, why?? Our three were never given a cell phone until they graduated from high school and needed it to keep in touch with us as they left for college. What do you think we did as kids growing up without cell phones - we used pay phones or called from a friend's house to notify family we were running a little late getting home for curfew. just because others have phones, does not mean you have to follow. Afraid of them having car problems? Teach them the sounds a car makes, good and bad. We have ALL girls, and they can change tires, check their oil, and know good and troublesome engine noises. They have driven 8-12 hours away from home to college. (One had an engine fire and we guided them through it) Their phones are a PRIVILEGE, not an expected right and they have been very responsible. Making them wait teaches patience, appreciation, and gives them time to mature. They are now ages 25, 24, and 20 and will say to us "wow, I can't believe parents just give kids all this STUFF nowadays". From the mouths of babes.....
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, but I always ask 'why?' Why does my non-driving child "need" a cell phone? Is this a "need" or a "want"? If it's a "need", why? What circumstances exist that would entrench such a need to be in constant contact upon so young a person, and such a financial burden upon the family?
If good reasons exist for "need", fine. For example, I have a divorced relative who shares custody of their child in another state with their ex, requiring air travel for visits, etc. OK, that creates a limited-use "need". But my family has no such issue, and there is no "need".
For us "need" by a young child is met by the borrowing of a cell phone from Dad or Mom. Texting is disabled on these devices. That stands true until they drive. Once they start driving, a cell phone becomes a practical "need" for emergency services, but again texting is disabled. Working on a play? Borrow Dad's phone on rehearsal nights and texting is enabled for that period of time only, usually about 1- to 2-months, then off. Off to college still meant texting was unnecessary. However, MUN meant massive collaboration between the students during the project... so texting was enabled for that period of time.
It's amazing how, when our kids are allowed to use devices NOT from "want" but from "need" they grow comfortably into them. They see and read about others mistakes, like "sexting", and learn to avoid them; and over time learn to use the tools and technology safely.
I don't see why one would let a child loose with a cell phone / smart phone / texting appliance unsupervised anymore than they would turn a 5-yr old loose with an automobile. For "fun"? Really? More likely out of personal convenience (parenting is by its nature extremely inconvenient to self-centered man), cowardice (being "bugged" into it), or immaturity (kids need their parents to be parents, not "BFFs", a lifelong commitment that evolves into mentoring).
God made us to be raised, watched over, looked after, trained up and prepared for adult life. That includes using technology just as much now as it did 2,000 years ago -- regardless of the technology involved.
Michelle, I think it is wonderful that you have such a closeness with your sons and I hope it lasts. Not all christain families have been blessed in that way. Cherish this time.
I have always been close to my sons and we did many things together and talked about anything. But there is a big world out there and many people who are not true to their faith. I do know the Lord has used our experiences to teach other parents.
Cell phones are technology that will not go away, but will be ever changing, as well as internet,Facebook, cable, etc. It can be scary & daunting, so we need to be smart & use it wisely. I have seen my sons facebook and the many girls that throw themselves at these guys. Be aware. you may not now what your kids are innocently seeing.
We did not allow phones until the boys were driving and needed the safety net feature. We didn't use texting back then. We do now, to stay in touch as they are both far away from home and for short messages. Phone calls are made weekly to stay in touch.
Just remember, your children DO NOT tell their parents everything so make sure they have a good mentor whom they can talk to.
We also use texting for business instead of walkie talkies. Much better for us
For all the people who say "we didn't have cell phones as kids and we survived" - our kids, unfortunately, aren't growing up in the same world as we did. Do you read the news? Can we go a single month without a report of someone gone missing? It gives me great comfort to know my three teenagers have a phone on them when they walk out the door. Not only does it allow me to keep track of where they are (through GPS) but is a lifeline of communication. For those who are against texting, I used to be you. I've found texting (and yes - like any form of modern technology- can be used for the wrong purpose and/or be a distraction) has been an easy way for my kids to let me know they need something or want out of a situation where making a phone call would be too awkward or even rude. Plus, I learned on a deserted highway once, texts can transmit in some cellular dead zones. There have been multiple accounts in recent disasters where someone was trapped but was able to be located through their phone. One young man texted his friends where he was under the rubble what was once a two story house. There are some negatives to having cell phones and texting but, at least for us, the positives are far more valuable. Besides, everyone needs to learn self-discipline at some point.
One of the rules our son agreed to in order to have texting was that he had to use proper grammar, spelling, and complete sentences. He is very quick at it! If needed, we easily know what he is saying. Thank you for all your help and information for families.
Funny anecdote:
My wife and I often text each other "143",which to us means, I Love You....as in the number of letters in each word. '143' has evolved into '8', as in 1+4+3. I don't think that's what we really mean ![]()
Bob Marley was born on February 6, 1945
420 is a time - 4:20 am - not sure how/when it started
4:20 am was/is apparently known as a "time" to smoke pot
I'm not certain why
My question is at what point do you teach them how to hold themselves accountable? It seems to me that a 15 year old is ready to take responsibility for their own behaviour. Don't they need to know how to monitor their own hearts? Isn't the true issue a heart issue? It isn't the phone causing the problem - they will find a way to sin if that is what their heart wants.
I am not sure that my definition of success would be the same as Robert Z's. I have read most of the posts and find 2 camps: 1) those that just don't allow texting or even have a cell phones and 2) those those that feel they are able to track and monitor sufficiently so they allow phones/texting. Technology can be a good and valuable tool. I am not suggesting that we return to the days of the pony express but one should look at the trends of "modern" electronics. Our grandparents warned us that TV was bad for us but the same arguments used for the cell phone and texting was used against them and now we have hours wasted, porn, homosexuality, celebrated drunken behavior, casual sex on 64 inches and in every room. Is all of TV bad, no, but was it worth it? I don't know. Internet (which obviously I have) is a wonderful and educational tool. "We need it, instantly keeping in touch, how did we ever manage with out it" is the argument. We also have invited predators, hardcore porn etc. not only into our homes but we carry it in our purses and pockets as well and hand it over to our kids and say "now be responsible". Is it worth it? People tell me "I have to have a cell phone, my kids NEED a cell phone" how else are we going to stay in touch". I understand that my family is considered weird by the general Christian population. We homeschool, have only one TV used for movies (no channels) and one computer with limited internet access and heavily monitored, and only 1 prepaid cell phone that is never turned on unless we are traveling a long distance or if I am out and the kids are at home and need to reach me. Technology is a useful tool but we delude ourselves if we think that we can control it. We must teach our children how to live a Christ centered life; how to be responsible and how to be safe. Technology is not going away and I do teach my children the good and the bad of it but why would I make living the Christ centered life harder for them by adding more and unnecessary temptation.
I agree that this is an issue, however upon reading some of the comments, I have to comment. I am not a Parent, rather I am a Male 19 year old College student. Just like anything, Cell phones and texting are a gift that God has provided us with and It all depends on what we do with that gift. Just like the Internet, There is plenty to be wary of, but there is also good. I personally text in the range of 1000-4000 texts a month, the majority of them going to and from my girlfriend. My Girlfriend and I are both Christians, and both sets of parents monitor the texts.
The one thing, as a teenager that I have found that makes up 99% of the problem, is the friends. 3/4 of My friends are active Christians, however I do have those that are not. I have received some rounchy texts in my days, but after responding with a text saying that i did not appriciate it, I rarely get that sort of text.
As for responsibility, I think it Is a great way to teach it. My parents pay for my general phone usage, but I pay for My own texts, Its been that way since I was 16. If anything, It has caused a greater sense of responsibility.
I personally think that if your child is abusing the privilege of texting, in the way of (as an example) sexting, then the issue that needs to be dealt with is not the texting, it should be the issue in itself. The only thing that can be sent via text or internet, or verbally is not an issue of the medium, it is an issue with the heart that needs to be dealt with.
I think that If anything, If an issue arises, then you should monitor the texts, not take them away. I know not everyones phone will have this, but my phone has the option to require a password to delete texts.
I believe that God did not place parents to be a Police to their kids, I believe that he does want them to keep them accountable though. Just Remember, Its the sin that God hates, not the people. Nip the sin, and you deal with the problem.
I've got three kids, all in their early twenties now. They've had parent provided cell phones since their early/mid teens. We've never had a problem. If you discuss these topics and trust your children, problems are non-existent or minimal. Really, there are other, more pressing problems to worry about.
Very well said, Stacey. Parental controls are very important, not just on cell phones but on the computer and tv as well. I didn't know about the Textfree app...I'll have to look it up.
My 16 year old daughter is allowed to text on my cell phone. The rule is that she is not allowed to delete the messages for any reason. If I find out she has deleted any messages (and there are ways to check that on my particular phone), then she loses the privilege of using it. She's been using it for a year now. Once in awhile I have to remind her of what is appropriate and what isn't. I have even texted friends of hers that were being inappropriate to her and let them know that it's not acceptable. That has always stopped it dead in its tracks. ![]()
Until our kids were in college, when we went to bed, the kids' phones went to bed with us. This cut down on the number of texts and calls - and allowed our kids to get a full night's rests. We also never allow phone activity at dinner time, during family nights (games, movies, outings), at church or at school.
i agree that texting lingo etc. should be monitored and such, but i dont see why its a big deal, as some other commenters seem to be making it into, for teens to text frequently provided they stay moral...
im not angry with or judging anyone i just dont see why its something to be concerned about.
We put off allowing texting for years, but when we did add texting to our 4 teenage childrens phones it was with the following stipulations:
1) Mom or Dad can check messages at ANY time.
2) There is no deleting messages or you loose your phone if we find out you have done so. (even if your inbox is "full").
3) No texting after 10 p.m.
4) Phones remain in the kitchen overnight (no phones in their bedrooms).
5) Phone ettiquite is expected (i.e. no texting during meals, during a conversation, etc.
6) If we find you cannot communicate with the rest of the family because the cell phone is velcroed to your hand, the cell phone needs a break.
7) No texting during school.
For the most part, all of them have been compliant to the rules since they were layed out prior to adding texting. On occasion we have had reminders (such as "Do NOT delete messages;" "It's 10 p.m., put the phone down.")
Texting has also been a wonderful discipline tool. We have the option to take away the phone or block texting as a form of discipline. The kids are usually chomping at the bit to get it back and correct whatever behavior they have committed quickly so that they can get their phones back;0)
Just a few suggestions from a Mom of 4 wonderful teenagers.
Can you get content of text messages from the cell phone company?
we just purchased a phone for our 11 year old..yes he text. I read EVERYTHING......nothing is off limits as far as electronics (ie email, facebook etc) with any of our children.
I read everything......at anytime i pick up his phone, open is FB and read everything!! we created a contract with regards to his phone...some of the items included:
I have 2 teenage boys, and I have made up my own text code that I text them sometimes when they are out, etc. That code is MWC ~ Make Wise Choices.
Whether they admit it or not, I know that it keeps that message in the fore-front of their minds.
None of my kids have cell phones and will not be allowed to have one until they get their driver's license, regardless of whether that comes at 16 or later. I am not sure what we will do with the texting issue yet, since we still have 3 years at the earliest before we get there. I am sure it will be an issue that we cover with much prayer. I am hopeful that we will have given our children a strong enough foundation that we can trust them with the responsibility, but we will not do so unless they have earned our trust. We also will most probably get them a phone with parental controls so we can monitor who they are in contact with. For now, they are allowed to use my phone to call or text friends or friend's parents when the occasion requires it, but only with me sitting next to them supervising the interaction.
I know that I am mean - and, I don't plan on changing....
I say NO to any phone until they have a job and can pay for the phone themselves........(really, where would the kid by that they would not have access to a phone?)
I say NO to TV - too much nonsense one - the commercials are not even acceptable.
I also say NO to Computers for the kids to use - they get enough of this at school....
NOT IN MY HOME
Addiction researchers are starting to do research on texting's effect on the brain. Preliminary studies show that receiving a text message could be triggering dopamine in the brain, providing a quick "high". Anyone know anyone that has had cell phone withdrawal or facebook withdrawal when doing a "technology fast"? Hmmm . . . interesting possibility . . .
I don't get it seems bulky and cumbersome to me. I put a block to texting on my daughters' phones one ran up a huge bill even after I warned them not to abuse it. So now it is gone.
I prefere to use the lod fashioned method of talking. face to face or on the phone.