Can anything good come from Mtv? There is so little redeemable that is on the television, why bother? Think of the savings Christians would have if they canceled their satellite or cable. That $35-$80 a month would go a long way to help ministries like Focus. My children (11, 9, 8, 4, 1 week!) don't even know what Mtv is. I would guess that most of their friends at our church don't either. We also don't send them to the government indoctrination centers. As Christians, we must do what is best for our children. We must also oppose this obscenity for the sake of the children with absent or neglectful parents. 1Pe 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
I couldn't agree with Scott more, cancel the cable. There are so many other things that can be done with the time wasted in front of the garbage, especially if one is drawn towards this temptation. Scripture is clear that if we struggle with a sin, cut it out. This will also save a ton of money throughout the year. And I know the argument because I've heard it, "There are so many good learning shows on cable we must have it." Do yourselves a favor, get a subsription to Netflix for half the cost and order those learning programs.
For me it's not MTV, but sports. If I had cable, it would always be on. So now that it's been gone (and has been for years) I discovered I had more time to be with my kids and with our God.
Funny that this email came along today... I was working out yesterday and one of the big screen TVs had Jersey Shore (?) on it. The show was repulsive and I cannot believe they show that kind of content and language on TV - My daughter is 8 and I shudder to think at her watching those shows and actually thinking that the actions and activities (mostly drinking and sex) are commonplace and acceptable.
Amen Sue.... We need to be fervent in our prayers about the youth today - they are bombarded from all sides!
I'm with you 100%. We would save millions of dollars in cable fees that could go toward Kingdom building, and it would help so many christians too come out of debt. God is going to hold us accountable to those wasted dollars. Also, what repulsive, utterly disgusting garbage "Skins". England needs to repent, and the U.S. is swiftly becoming like Europe. May God have mercy.
The problem with blocking these channels is that you are still paying for them. They are still using your money to produce more trash to infect those who are not blocked. They don't care if you don't watch, as long as you pay. Cable shoice is the answer. When we can pay for only what we want to watch, then we will have more influence on what is produced.
When are we going to stop 'acting' surprised and do something about it. Simply 'turning' off the TV isn't an option any more.
Parents need to review the material BEFORE their child is exposed; not after and not 'with' them. If needed..throw out the TV or get rid of cable. The long term impact is not worth it.
We don't need another "woodstock" generation.
I strongly encourage all families to limit their TV exposure. Since last summer, we have had just basic cable service. Other than football games and the occasional game show, our TV is never on. My two youngest kids, age 11 and 13, are reading multiple books per week, playing board games and otherwise occupying their time. They still ask us from time to time to upgrade our service again (for ESPN and Nickleodean) but we have no plans to do that. The content of the majority of the programs on both network and cable TV is so objectionable to my husband and me that by not watching, we can - in some small way - take a stand.
Ever since we have had cable. we have blocked MTV (and a bunch of other channels) using the paraental controls feature -- we've removed (hidden) MTV and others from the on-screen guide, so our kids don't see the program listings, and we have put a password block on the channels as well.
Much of the basic content is, of course, sewage -- and MTV is about the worst of a bad lot. Our kids are old enough now to know that our basic cable subscription includes channels that we've disabled (because their friends have the same cable service). And they know that we as parents are willing to negotiate about some films/shows on a case-by-case basis, but they know other channels, like MTV, are non-negotiable. Unfortunately, many parents that we know are themselves addicted to TV shows that are not appropriate for their kids. My wife and I have rarely seen prime time network programming in the last 15 years, because we want to set a good standard for our kids.If I have any regrets, it is that we were not strict enough in limiting the quantity and quality of TV.
I would encourage other parents to learn to use the parental controls on their system if they have paid TV.Set limits that reflect your family's values while your kids are young. Abide by them yourself. Consider what type of family culture you want to develop, and what kind of kids you want to raise. If you have a DVR, record shows and skip the commercials... the adverts are often worse than the programming.
As a Mr. Mom who stays home and makes sure the children (12-9-6) come home from school and do homework or play outside, it comes down to the parents.
I love watching sports on tv and could watch cable sports all day long and always find something to view. That also goes for my children, they could always find something to view, be it apropriate or not. 4 years ago it was a big decision to cancel dish and cable from our home. I am very glad we made that decision as a fmaily and have found other means of entertainment. 2 years ago we purchased a wii for family night and also added Netflicks. But as of this year we have since cancelled Netflicks for the fact that there is also too many inappropriate viewing choices avaiable for adults as well as children. Please take all viewing into a prayerful commitment with your family and the Lord, for it is what we watch and allow to influence our choices that makes many Christians one step closer to Satan and one step further from God.
I could not imagine the kids watching MTV or VH1 in my house-it would feel surreal. I use the parent controls and password to block those and other offensive channels. His and my kids unfortunately still watched this stuff at their other parents houses.
If this program is bordering on being child porngraphy, can't a Christian group, file a lawsuit against MTV the producers of child porn and the SPONSORS of child porn?
I heard through the media that the actors on this program are all under-age. MTV (I call it MTTV as in Empty TV) seems to have grown tired of its usual lustful fanfare and so now feels compelled to explore the taboo shores of child sexuality. To me, they are following the same downward spiral as your typical depraved porn addict. These lost people are happily receiving their reward on Earth, but have doomed themselves to a never ending search for the bottom of their thick pool of filth.
When I was 12, I would come home from school everyday, and have 2 hours + until my parents came home. I would hide upstairs and watch MTV...back then, it was slightly more tame then it is now...even so, I would spend hours waiting for my favorite sexy videos to come on. There was also a show called 'the Grind' with lots of scantily clad women. Shortly thereafter, we got our first computer and dial-up internet. My addiction to MTV quickly transitioned into a 12 YEAR addiction to internet pornography. Even though I'm now a Christian, married man and a father, it is something I will never be completely free of until I die, I am convinced. I am horribly ashamed of the (probably) YEARS of the most free and productive time of my life that I wasted in front of TV and computer screen. Not to mention the sin, and the effects on personal relationships...the constant struggle, temptation, guilt, shame... I'm also convinced this could have been PREVENTED, #1 if we did not have cable or internet, or if we had parental controls on the internet, and #2, if my parents had been actively involved in talking to me about these potential struggles and making sure I wasn't involved in them.
Parents, PLEASE, get rid of cable TV. Put a filter on your internet of some kind, and keep the computer in a public area of the house, like the kitchen or living room. If you have a son, realize he will struggle with these temptations more than your generation may have, because the amount of media garbage/porn/etc out there is so pervasive and easily accessible. Don't be afraid to talk to your kids about this--they want your help, even if they don't say so!!!
I am not a parent but have several nieces & nephews ranging in ages from 30 to 11. I have watched MTV on occasion and am aware of bad aweful shows on there. However, I also know about some of the good or decent shows like "16 & Pregnant", "Teen Mom", "I used to be fat" and "If you really knew me". And have watched some episodes from these shows.
On one season on "16 & Pregnant" one teen couple gave their baby up for adoption using Bethany Christian Services despite oposition from both of their parents. This young couple is still together.
So because there are some shows that are disgusting & aweful you can't write off the whole network. Just don't watch those shows.
Cancel cable!! I don't have any television channels at home, just dvd's and video's. I watch programs online, moslty ministries.
There is another problem right in front of our eyes and ears at every check out counter. There has to be a front cover of some naked 90 lb female celebrity kissing another female, or someone's greatest, hottest, sexiest sex tips on how to please your man in bed, right in the faces of any maybe even 3 or 4 year old that can read, not to mention my teen son, trying extremely hard to stay PURE, in a very corrupt, unpure, dirty, filthy world. We can't even insulate them enough to deal with what comes out of people's mouths at the library, grocery, karate class. There are not even any morals in these people's lives anymore, never mind whether they are CHRISTIAN or not. GOD tells us not to judge them, because they are doing exactly what the worldly people do. Have they any common sense to not swear and pervert sex right in the faces of the public they so blatanly protect as their very standard of living??? It's like living in Sodom and Gomorah. GOD, please deliver us from this lie and trap the devil has the world under. Whether, they want to be Christians or not, let us not be involved in their wickedness, and sinfulness. Give us a place of refuge, safety, innocense again. God, please, protect our values for YOUR children we are raising up for YOU. These people want Christianity out of their lives so badly, because of their rights and freedom of speech, well, we have rights and freedom of speech, too. And, we don't want their filth in the public eye or public billboards and places of business, or schools!!! AMEN. Glory to GOD.
Hey DeeAnn:
You have the right idea. If there is a new show out that kids are interested in, why not sit down in front of the television with them. Having a parent in the room changes the viewing dynamic, and will undoubtedly make the kids uncomfortable having a parent watch with them if there is questionable content. After the program (or several minutes into it in this case), parents and their children can have a frank discussion about the program.
Thanks for being a responsible parent. Keep up the good work.
It certainly is a rock and a hard place. We cant have our cake and eat it too can we? I think the best we can do is to protect our children and expose them to things only when we see fit to do so.... you cant worry about the country, your political party, your town or even your neighborhood. The ONLY thing you can control is your own family unit.....
It's a rough spot, but you cannot burden yourself too heavily with it or you will exhaust your efforts and not see the forest for the trees. Focus on YOUR family. That is all we can do.
This is something every consciencious Christian parent grapples with at one time or another and thank God we do!!! Christians are called to promote Christ and glorify Him, foremost, in all our choices and in this country that includes protecting and defending the God given rights of LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of Happiness of every individual, especially the weak, helpless, elderly and all children beginning in the womb. So, if it is wrong to allow children to see PG-13 or R movies at home or the theater (Parents who see them are conveying it's a grown up thing to do instead of a right/wrong thing to do), why would they be allowed to watch these kinds of TV shows? If it is wrong, defending captialism has nothing to do with it. Don't turn it on or have tv in the house. That is where we begin. Banning the viewing of a show for your family and explaining why is the first and major impacting defense. Capitalism thrives based on the need as well as the availability of a product. Grocery stores sell alcohol and "birth control" but we don't ban grocery stores, just the products. If it breaks the law-ban it legally and if it doesn't, but breaks God's law, then we must get involved in urging legislation to do so for protection against its harm. My children are grown, 25 & 28, and if they ever watched MTV in our house I wasn't aware of it as we didn't as a family, they didn't have tv's in their rooms, and agreeing on who controlled the tv control and/or which program that everyone agreed on was such an ordeal, I don't remember MTV as an option! But I am sure they viewed it at one time or another. I have learned that as Christians we need to be more aware and cautious of why we feel we the need to be entertained or stimulated all the time and what we view as an entertainment that does stimulate us. How we live before our children will influence them in their choices and what kind of influence they are to their peers-or how their peers may influence them instead. The older I become the more I realize how many God given opportunities I have wasted because of my desire to be entertained. If I am ever allowed to see how much ministry the Lord could have used me in His kingdom work while I was on this earth, I am afraid I will be ashamed of being so selfish!
Has it really come to this? Are we are really living in a world that has become so dark that some adults have opted to ignore asking the questions, “Is this show beneficial to teenagers?” “Is it wise?” “Will it help them to make good decisions for their lives?” in favor of asking “Is it provocative and interesting?” “Will they watch?” “Will McDonald’s and Coke pay us for ad time when we show them the preliminary estimates of viewership?”
Consider this quote from Brian Graden during an interview for PBSFrontline: “Even though I work at MTV…I am starting to see the world more like someone who’s approaching forty than someone who’s twenty,” says Brian Graden, the channel’s president of programming. “And I can’t help but be worried that we are throwing so much at young adults so fast. And that there is no amount of preparation or education or even love that you could give a child to be ready.”
I truly hope that a time will come when the media will understand that we can’t have it both ways. We can’t be against teenage pregnancy, yet broadcast shows with teenagers having drug-induced sex. We can’t advertise violent video games and movies, then scratch our heads when confused young people shoot innocent people. And we CANNOT show underaged people behaving in a sexual fashion without sending a message that children are sexual and pedophilia is okay.
Needless to say, the show “Skins” will not be viewed in my home. And I know that other Moms and Dads have likely made this decision for their homes. Trouble is, my kids still have to live in the world with kids who were allowed to see this show and others like it. And I’m praying to God that when the chickens come home to roost, when younger and younger people are viewed as sexual objects, that parents will stand up and say, enough is enough.
Throw the TVs out! When my wife and I married 25 years ago we decided that we would not have a TV in our home. Not only for the sake of our children because of content, but also for the increased communication between us. And that was back when they had "decent" things on the TV. When I hear/read about the shows such as this one, I am so thankful that we went without. Yes, it is sometimes missed when there is a big news event, etc., but on the whole it is not missed. My children actually read books!! Who ever heard of such a thing! We have 9 children and I would be kidding myself if I thought they didn't occasionally watch TV at friend's houses, but at least it is a minimal amount and my wife and I aren't the ones allowing the trash into our home.
The scriptures say: "Redeem the time". I can't see how most of the junk on TV has any redeeming value.
Since we don't watch much TV and banned MTV years ago, I'm not sure which companies sponsor MTV. Which companies sponsor it so that I know who to avoid from this day forth? Sleeze is to be avoided and cut off financially. That is the bottom line here in these companies on earth. they will keep pushing unless they feel less in their pocket books.
Thank you for your feedback.
Tammy
There are plenty of calls for censorship on trashy tv that have been going on since tv was nationally aired. Those calls were unsuccessful then, and they will be until either Jesus calls us home or we become a totalitarian state where ALL media including and especially Christian media is monitored and censored.
The problem is not the fact that this garbage is on tv, but with the ones watching it. That trash wouldn't be on if NOBODY was willing to watch it. Even the most vile pornography exists because there is an "audience" who has an appetite for that stuff whether it's legal or illegal, regulated or not.
As Christians, our job is not to be crusaders of prohibition, but a light in a depraved and dying world. The problem is a heart problem. IF the producers of the most depraved smut was to get saved, he/she wouldn't produce that trash anymore. If those who watched that stuff were to get saved, they also wouldn't watch it anymore.
We are called to evangelize the world NOT legislate it. I agree we should vote for lawmakers who want decency on the airwaves, but remember that censorship is a sword that can cut the handler as well as the ones it's wielded against. There are many well intended laws on the books now that have been turned on their heads and used as instruments of evil. We never know if the very laws we seek to pass to silent those we find offensive, may also be used to silence the Gospel too. Our focus should be on winnng the lost, and morality will follow. A corrupt tree can only bring forth corrupt fruit.
It's interesting. My husband and I just canceled our cable subscription this year because we actually sat down and realized, we watch maybe.... 3 shows? We much prefer movies. So we gave up our $80 cable bill in favor of spending $10 a month for Netflix. There's a lot more family friendly content not to mention old shows that aren't on TV anymore. (Looney Toons, anyone?) And I can control what we watch. That even goes to commercials. My husband and I were noticing some of the commercials were raunchier than what was on the shows!
Plus, I can watch Veggie Tales anytime I want. (yes, I'm really 4 years old at heart. I love those lil guys!)
I can honestly say, I don't miss my cable at all. Except perhaps for one particular cooking show. But I can watch it online, so I'm not too worried.
we don't have TV because it is mostly trash. my husband (now 37) was in the hospital when he was 16. he STILL remembers MTV programs he saw while in the hospital. (he had no TV at home) WOW! the WORD of GOD says we are to be filling our minds with THE WORD:) i say UNPLUG:):):) and throw out:)
mel
My biggest problem is when my 11 year old daughter goes to friends' houses where the parents do not have the same standards as I do. My daughter has a friend her age that is allowed to watch Family Guy. Talk about trash! I am offended by that show - that is horribly inappropriate for a child to watch. (And these are people that go to my church.) Luckily my daughter is pretty good about telling people she is not allowed to watch something. I guess we did something right.
For those looking for alternatives to MTV...BEWARE. We have access to TBN (a Christian network) which has a music video program.....I was watching it with my teen age children the other day and had to turn it off....one of the groups, with a female singer, was pretty provocative.
Point: (and reminder to myself) We have to be involved parents..know what our children are watching, reading and listening to. Even if it's labeled Christian....being a Christian might not be acceptable in schools and policies, but it seems to be the new cool place to be for the music buisness. We also need to re-evaluate what we as parents consume through music, TV and literature....Some of us are telling our children that certain forms of entertainment are ok without even realizing that we are, by the things we watch, listen to and read...rearrange our homes so TV's, computers and maybe even stereos are in a central location......but most importantly we need to pray...pray for nation...starting with our families....our spouses, our children and ourselves, that we can see our lives through Jesus' eyes.
I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that we as Christians should be concerned about programs like Skins. But to be honest, the only way "MTV is etched on young minds" is if the parents are not paying attention to what their children are doing. If you don't want your children "corrupted" by MTV or similar trashy programming, don't let them have access to it. Simple as that.
Also, the original version of Skins, which aired in the UK, makes MTV's version look like a Disney special.
Do a little research. Obsesity, higher rates of violence, loss of critical thinking skills, ADHD, and many more ills have television, even the "good" shows, as a specific cause. We turned off cable 10 years ago. My kids (8 and 9) watch PBS occasionally, and movies we have previewed. We get our news online. You have no idea how desensitized you are until you've had the TV off for at least 6 months. Suddenly, sex and violence jump off the screen and slap you in the face.
And what a time waster! We are entertaining ourselves to death. If you truly wish to learn more about history, science, cooking, or whatever "good" channel you watch, find a magazine or book. Studies show you will retain more and learn more by reading than watching a brief program and ingesting sound bites.
Do you know what's really sad? There is an organization that promotes "TV Turnoff Week" and is supported by pediatricians and teachers.....but not a single Christian organization or church. Marx was mistaken. TV is the opiate of the people, not religion.Just entertain us so we don't have to think ....if you cannot live without it, it is your master.....
As the mother of three girls, 18, 17, and 10, I see the magnetic effect MTV has on teens. And much worse, I see teens all around me trying to immitate Snookie and the gang from Jersey Shore. It shows in their choices, their actions, and their attitudes. Like Susan in the story, I was once enthralled by MTV. It made it's debut when I was 14 and it was even cooler than my "Atari" game...lol. It was "music television". But that was before the internet, youtube, iTunes, Pandora, and other sites where you can now get music at anytime! I had to listen to the radio all day or tune in to MTV at a certain time to catch my favorite song! That WAS in the early '80s.... Fast forward to 2011, MTV can't drift any further from the music scene! In fact, I would go as far as to say some of the teens today couldn't tell you what the M in MTV stands for!!! With the rapid growth of technology and the supply and demand's effect on music, MTV had to "reinvent" themselves to stay in the game...and is now the literal definition of FILTH!!! Sadly, most parents don't know what's on MTV or what it promotes but they wonder why their children act/dress the way they do. I BLOCKED the channel from all of my tvs....trying to block the website from my computer (cause yes, you can conveniently see all of your "favorite" episodes 24-7 via the internet!) but it has yet to work for me...still trying though. Our home computer is password protected so I try to monitor access and usage closely as well. We can take a stand against this trash! We can make it hard for MTV to penetrate our homes and childrens' minds. We can fight this battle! And the more parents get involved, we can WIN!!!
Proverbs 1:28-33 "Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find m. Since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord, since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke, they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit oftheir schemes. For the waywardness of the simple will dill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them, but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease without fear of harm." Proverbs 2:12 "Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse, who leave the straight paths to walk in dark ways, who delight in doing wrong and rejoicein the perverseness of evil, whose path are crooked and who are devios in their ways"
Since I don't and won't watch MTV, please list their sponsors. I will boycott and notify the corporation that I am doing so and why.
Thanks
It's the natural result of the court's interpretation of unfettered free "speech." MTV as with the rest of TV, Web, and video games do not convey speech so much as imagery. And God's word is filled with warnings about imagery. I am all for good and original art, but that is not what we are talking about here. If the founding fathers could have foreseen typical TV, they would have written the first amendment differently. And where in scripture does God promote such a concept of unfettered free speech?
There has always been loads of money to be earned off morbid fascination and lust. It's also the natural result of evangelicals' own behavior. When we spend our leisure time watching Christian TV, playing Christian video games, going to Christian theme parks, and otherwise decorating the walls of our Christian ghetto, while allowing our taxes to go toward a $1 trillion military budget (including States portion of military) that we could otherwise spend on outreach ministries; when we exchange Christian mission (Matt. 28:20) for Christian "lifestyle" and won't spend even an hour a week helping an illiterate person learn to read, why should we be surprised when the "surrounding culture" sinks further into a threatening moral decay?
Taco Bell pulled their advert from "Skins" b/c of content. I wrote a letter to Taco Bell and thanked them for their stand. I hope you will, too!
BBMamaGrizzly, there's a big difference, in the persuit of free capitalism, between being 'Christian and Republican' and 'Christian and Anarchist.' As Jim stated, they're just about bumping up against established federal laws, laws which are there not primarily to limit our liberties or impinge on free market capitalism, but to protect us. Romans 13 has been abused, but it is still true.
That said, I think your idea of boycotting sponsors is a good one. To make the link clear, we should create some kind of forum where people can sign on, saying why they are boycotting business A, B, C, etc. otherwise who will trace the sales stats back to one of the many places these businesses advertise?
Also, I think our allegiance to Christ should be superlatively important enough to trump any political allegiance, to the point that I do not think they should ever be coupled in such a sentence as "Christians and Republicans."
I really dont know what this show is in regards to but after the things I have read about it I wouldnt even attempt to stomache that disgust. I am 22 and I am engaged to be married, I limit my own TV to certain things as well as my soon to be husband, I personally have caught glimpses of Teen Mom 2 and 16 & Pregnant, but even those shows disgust me, we are promoting to our children that premarital sex is ok, where have all our values gone. I feel as thou if things were like they were went our grandparents were growing up we wouldnt have half the problems we do now. I do not wish to expose the children I plan to have to the scum of the world by allowing myself to be involved. I am not perfect and no one is but honestly I will not use the excuse that I am a sinner to allow myself to become anymore part of this world than I am. I have learned long ago that God will always love and always forgive but that doesnt give us the excuse to live as thou we dont know the rules and sadly enough I have seen Christians live that way and it sickens me. MTV when i was a kid stood for Music Television, someone explain to me what Skins, Jersey Shore, Teen Mom 2 and all of the other disgust on this channel has to do with anything about Music, NOTHING! MTV should be banned and shut down indefinitely!
I was a teenager when Mtv first aired, back then they played some racy music videos, but were not a network show creator. Personaly, I stop waching Mtv long before becoming saved. Christian or not, the garbage on Mtv or any tv for that matter, (Desperate house wifes, etc....) needs to go. I laughed during the 80's & 90's (I was not saved) as christians coward to the pressure of being politicaly correct, not wanting to offend any one. The truth sometimes offends, We need to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough. Does a movie realy need to use God's name in vane for realism. Please. Freedom of speech is about bieng able to speek your mind freely on personal views and issues, not to spit a bunch of garbage out for all to have to ingest. If there is truly, still a moral majority, we need to raise our voice even louder. There is a war brewing. If we don't stand up now, they will run us down later.
i must confess that i am of a generation which does not appreciate this type of "entertainment" i do not regularly watch. what little i have seen seems to appeal to the baser instincts of humanity
this next comment does not apply to all parents today but i do believe that to the majority it does. Parents who were raised on this material often do not know the scriptures and therefore are mislead to believe that they are their childrens friends. you are not. you are their examples and mentors which means you will be called on to say no and to educate yourselves to what your children are being exposed to, and protect them. this does not mean you sit down with your child to judge unfit material. you should have already done this and when the question of "can i watch this" your answer is NO. It's time to man up.
We cancelled the cable, and turned off the TV when we realized we were spending more money to have this trash delivered to our home than we were paying the refuse company to haul it off! That was about 12 years ago. and even then, Mtv was not allowed to be watched in our home.
As other comments have mentioned, we also testify to the blessings we've received in family time, activies, and teaching and learning life lessons with our children, that otherwise would've been impossible with the TV blaring all the time. Bottom line here is TV is THE #1 Time Waster in existance today!
Remember when Ricky and Lucy, Ozzie and Harriet, et al, wore night clothes and slept in separate beds?? Comedy without the sex was usually pretty funny. Inject the sex and it becomes obnoxious and offensive. Many of the old TV shows actually had some form of socially redeeming value. They could define good versus bad; light versus the darkness. TV at one time actually had a conscience. Sadly, this is no longer true.
Mtv is not the only show that deserves to be flushed, but is certainly up near the front of the line!
Check out Josh Turner's song "Long Black Train". The lyrics tell it all.
Be careful even with PBS. I sat down when I was 13 to watch a PBS special performance of my favorite ballet, Swan Lake.
I wasn't 15 minutes into it when I noticed something disturbingly wrong. There was no girl in a white swan tutu. There was a guy. They had re-worked the entire performance to be the story of a homosexual man and his prince-lover. It was still swan lake, but the main character was now a man. Not just played by a man. Actually about a man.
So even PBS has its evils.
Mtv is horrid and so are most other channels. The sitcoms these days push sex, violence and anti-Christian themes on a daily basis. Why are they not in trouble for "hate crimes" like Christians are when we speak out against homosexuality?
I took out tv all together in my house about 3 years ago. I have so much more time to spend with my family and chasing my nephew around the parks or around my living room. I do not miss the hours spent in front of the tv. It is on all day at my job; if no one is in the room, I turn it off. Even the news is ridiculous with its dramatization of events. What happen to the facts? What happened to sharing good news? These "personalities" are just actors getting paid mega $$ to spread lies and negativity.
I think we should go back to radio only. I'm in my 30s, and wish tv was never invented.
I really think its out of our hands by now. But not Gods hand. He can turn things around. I think we need to pray more than ever, that God would intervene. Lets pray.
You are so right Tabitha, the problem starts with the parents who don't want to acknowledge their own responsibility in parenting. It's hard work to say NO and stick to it. But I can assure you it is very much worthwhile the trouble. Even Teachers of my children told us: what ever it is you are doing with your children, keep doing it...they where amazed about my childrens concentrations level and good behavior . For 8 years we didn't have a TV at all and later we allowed only what we thought could help their knowledge in education like animal or nature channel, but we always watched with them and corrected and explained the message (creation/evolution). The hard work is establishing the rules after that it's a breeze. The bible tells us to train our children in the right way (of live) when they are young, so they wont stray when they are old. With the help of God we can do it.
My 5 children are all grown ups now with no TV (their own choice), a good education and a love for God.
I watched to show last night to see for myself what all the hype is about, and to draw a conclusion without simply relying on what I've read or heard.
The show was very disturbing- at any age, but in particular because it deals with very young adults. And I'm not just talking about the characters. I mean the actors themselves. We have to remember that although the story is not real, the actors are. I can't imagine young people acting these things out. There is no way they can't be afffected by their actions.
Secondly, the show claims to be the "secret life of teens". Whatever! It's not the life of any teens I know, maybe there is a small minority who behave and live this way. Nor do I know of any Holocaust survivor grandmothers who came over from Germany with their lesbian lover. This is supposed to be real? It's just another example of a small group of minority trying to convince others that their abnormal lifestyles are mainstream.
I, personally, and sick and tired of the sexual explotation of children. It is a constant, daily battle to guard my children's hearts from becoming "sexed" at too young of an age.
BBMama,
your boycott will get some teeth if you also send a letter (and encourage others to do the same) to their corporate HQ informing them that you are pulling your business, and your reasoning behind it.
They will ignore it, but if enough people boycott Subway, and their numbers start going down, then they will have an idea as to why.
I doubt they will see much of a decline, as I haven't even turned MTrashV on in forever...my kids don't watch it either.
Yes it's evil, vile and filth. My heart goes out to the young kids who are playing on the show. I wonder are they "real castaways" from homes that rejected them or lack guidance. I am doing two things. 1. Targeting the companies that is still supporting this trash and letting them know that I won't buy their products and will tell others not to. Money seems to be the only thing they will listen to. 2. Praying that the show fails. At least while we are still here on earth. I pray for the kids that they come out of the bondage. I pray that leaders will be moved to influence kids towards God and revival. I pray that godly children will be able to reach out to them. We are living in evil times but we still can light a candle in the dark.
In October 1999, Ravi Zacharias was invited to speak to the Littleton Community-{Churches-Youth Leaders and others] for his perspectiveon the massacre at the Littleton High school on Aprit 20, 1999 In one of his messages[video taped[ was titled "If the Foundations Be Destroyed - What shall we thenDo?
Here are a few extracts from his message as best as I can recall-
In today's culture :"Truth can no longer be propositioned"-"we have a generation[youth] that hears with their eyes- and speaks with its feelings"-NOW is all we have to give Time has no meaning-Theie is no tomorrow
"Truth is relegated to technology -Beauty is relegated to the beholder-"Goodness is mocked by the 'idiot box'"-"Nothing is sacred-Language is not sacred-Relationships are not sacred-Pleasure is not sacred-Grief is not sacred"-Once you have emptied your life of its[this] content, the only way to affirm oneself is to express it with ---violence and sex and other abuse and go down laughing" "There is no answer outside of Jesus Christ.-The World's view is becoming just like the air we breath"
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Thank you John above for posting your story about watching MTV and The Grind at age 12, and the addictions and issues that followed. To every person on here who is a parent: Your children WILL watch trash if you have cable in your home. I snuck MTV all the time and my parents never knew, and I grew up with serious image and body issues, as well as sexual overdrive. They will find a work around on your little security system on the TV. To say the least the world and MTV in particular puts the emphasis on something that is not important, completely ungodly, and really an abomination. NO CHRISTIAN should be paying money to fund filth.
We have been cable free for 2 years now and I know my little girls will never have to see that. To the parents who let their children stay over at their friends houses: STOP being that type of parent! Stand up to your children and just say no. My parents didn't have Playboy or other pornographic magazines in our house, but every one of my friends had something like it in theirs, and we would read them cover to cover. Don't count on your standards for your kids being upheld at someone else's house, whether they are Christians or not. I was having sex by 15 just like my friends. YOU have to be the one who has the most influence on your kids, and if your kids get really close to other kids, your clout will be lost.
God has set me free though from a life of sin and TV! I am so thankful to him for his amazing grace that saved this wretch!
Our girls will never sleep over anywhere except on special occasions at their Grandma's, they were given to us by God to take care of them and we don't loan them out for the night.
We don't have cable, never have in our 12 years of marriage. There's better things to do. We watch a show a day on Hulu.
I totally think that we should at the very least limit what come through our TV. Like, I know that I don't live in a household that follows Christ, and my parents are very against it. So I can't entirely control what goes on my TV, but I hear some stuff and it truly is garbage.
Certainly when I move out in the next couple years, I will be limiting whats on my TV as well, if not getting rid of Cable entirely.
Back in the early 90s, when my children were 7 and 10, I refused to allow them to watch MTV. I had sat and watched it with them to see what it was about before making that decision. I was appalled at the disrespect for adults and authority that it was promoting through comedy and the music they were airing. When my children began sneaking to watch MTV, I had the cable disconnected and simply used rabbit ears - received 11 stations anyway. (Nowadays one cannot do that because digital transmission has resulted in stations reducing the kind of transmission that can be received through those government-subsidized converters, but basic cable IS an option.
I would say MTV has done a lot to destroy our children's sense of boundaries, right & wrong and opinions of themselves (self esteem). It is more important than ever to know what our children are watching, to listen to the music they are listening to, and to put personal computers in a public area in the homes so that we can monitor what they are seeing. I am now raising my grandchildren (6 and 7 years old) and I even monitor their cartoons. It is difficult, but in the long run it's easier to control what they learn than to unlearn an attitude.
Even so, there is still no guarantee children won't rebel and make unnecessary mistakes that will scar them for their lives. We just have to do the best we can to defend them against the arrows of Satan. I truly believe we are accountable to God for how we rear our children.
It truly is disturbing to see what Man is capable of doing. YES, the end times are near and the things will get worse, as we are told in the Bible!
I feel sorry and sad for parents these days and for children whose innocense is stolen so early. Parents need to guard their children from the things of this world, which is difficult to do with the internet, etc. It really is up to the Parents and teachers and the Church to be positive influences.
I would also like to comment about banning these programs and that means BIG government, right????! I am certainly for censoring particular programs and keeping them from broadcast. If it isn't edifying, inspirational, educational, etc. then it should not be allowed, but that's BIG government! If this show could be considered child pornography then it has a good chance it will not continue to air. YES!!! We need regulations to protect us from many things, NOT just what's on TV.
I am a little concerned by the concept that the government has no God-ordained authority over nastyness on television. 1 Peter 2:14 tells us that "governors are sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good." Romans 13 tells us that rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Unfortunately, our rulers do not wield God's Word as our standard of behavior, but certainly it would be appropriate for our God-ordained governing authority to set boundaries and to punish or charge fines over the evil flooding our televisions today. Overall, it is a fine line to know what falls within the government's sphere of influence and when it becomes the government overreaching. I do not think it is socialistic for true evil in our world to be legislated or punished.
First of all, I don't agree with MTV or any other station that makes its living out of immorality, this is why I don't own cable neither watch local tv, though I read the news. Parents have the first most responsability in not allowing this content into their homes. It is not good for adults and neither is it for kids. Period.
When will the so many Christians that support this programming with their paid subscriptions, so that they can indulge in private of this worldliness wake up and realize: "You can't serve two master. You will love one and despise the other" and also that "Whomever looks over his shoulder while holding the plow in hand is not worthy of the kingdom."
I am not a saint, but have come to realize that each one of us is the party responsible from purging these destructive habits out of our lives, to live in the Spirit and not in the Flesh.
I am so mad that producers get away with this. You know bottom line, they are not satisfied with all the porn already out there,they have to defile our youth and cross the line because they are so perverted and never satisfied. That is the evil abpout lust....never satisfied. Tell me this doesn't stir up Child Pornography...give me a break...it IS child pornography.
What can we do about this...how can we fight this besides jsut "not watching it" or canceling cable!
This is NOT what freedom of speech was meant for....
I am so angry my 4 beautiful childen have to grow up amongst all this filth.
Just watched the the trailer for that show, have MTV blocked on my cable to keep my kids safe and WOW is all I can say. That was horrible.
I think as Christians that is where we take our stand. Children and all humans should not be exploited. We don't have a problem saying human trafficking is wrong no matter how much it boosts an economy. We need to remember also that teaching our children discernment skills will have an impact on their peers as they begin to interact with kids who don't have parents that teach them. I do not see it as BANNING a program instead we are calling for stopping a flow of behavior that will begin to open the door for exploiting children.
First of all, I don't think that God really has preference in monetary systems as long as people are leading christian lives (love thy neighbor, etc.). Secondly, you make the point yourself that the freemarket tends to make people exploit any oportunity to make money.
However, there will always be shows that push the envolope. It is jsut a fact of life. And it's not like teenagers are not imagining things on their own